Hella Chisme Podcast
Hella Chisme Podcast is a production where Dana and Stefanie sit together with their favorite cocktails and talk about their day-to-day lives. They will cover a wide variety of topics like sex, dating, marriage, pop culture, spirituality and more. The Hella Chisme Podcast will have audio and visual releases every Friday across all major platforms. It's gonna be hella fun.
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Carrie, Big, & the Chaos of Dating: Sex and the City Then vs Now
Welcome back to another episode of the Hella Chisme Podcast.
This week, we discuss Stefanie's birthday and reflections on relationships, the value of consistency in friendships as she turns 34, plus Dana's exciting experience at Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter Tour where Blue Ivy and Rumi made special appearances.
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Speaker 1:My name is dana and I'm stephanie and we are your host and, yes, we have changed our shit again. Um, yeah, we're no longer on riverside, so that's really just what it is. I I had a. I just felt like we had an awful experience with Riverside and, um, I wasn't liking it. It wasn't giving me what I needed. It wasn't audially giving me what I needed and sometimes visually it wasn't giving me what I needed. So I'm back to the good old faithful of Zoom. So here we are, welcome back, and we'll make our own little audio gyms oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:So there's no soundboard there's no soundboard anymore, sorry, that's like the only yeah negative that was.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was the only positive yeah positive. Positive with uh Riverside was we had the soundboard handy and now we do not. So, yeah, but that's fine, that's fine. Um well, happy Friday. It is Stephanie's birthday today. Happy birthday, stephanie. How are you feeling? How are you doing? How old are we?
Speaker 2:that's the real tea. Um, I am turning 34, so I guess I'm 34 now. Um, and I'm feeling good. I'm feeling like I'm in a different mindset of like really seeing who is like in my circle, like who is really consistently, like you know, present in my life. Yeah. And consistently present and I'm just feeling grateful for for those people you know, like my family, you and Paris are, you know, very consistent and just you know other people not too many other people, but you know I think that happens as I, you get older.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And yeah, just having discernment, you know, and just I'm really really grateful and blessed.
Speaker 1:Good, good. So I mean anything that you feel like you've learned this time around or this year that you, you know, you're like. I definitely won't be doing this next year.
Speaker 2:Um, I think like feeling obligated, like to people please or like to, you know, maintain certain connections or feeling like I have to put effort, be the only one putting effort, I guess I should say in like certain connections or like just just really like not doing that, you know, like preserving my energy and being more mindful of, like, what I'm allowing in my energy and my life and what I'm not, you know. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:I think that's kind of like where I'm at. I also want to give myself some more grace, Like I feel like I'm super like.
Speaker 1:Hard on yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like hard on myself and like this needs to get done.
Speaker 1:And this needs to get done, like I just kind of like it's okay, yeah, yeah no, yeah, I mean, and that's important as you, the older you get, the more shit that gets on your plate and the more things that you're doing. Um, you have to figure out a way to just be like. You know that didn't get done today, but it will tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I feel that. So what are you going to do today for your big birthday plans? Any plans? What are we doing?
Speaker 2:Hit the street.
Speaker 1:No, we're going to hit the street.
Speaker 2:There's this new cannabis cannabis lounge in san diego. For those of you that are not from here or don't go here, um, it's a new cannabis lounge in like the south bay area and, um, it's like an upscale, it looks upscalescale. I haven't been so I can't you know 100% say yet, but it's called Sessions by the Bay and they also have like food and like an indoor outdoor area. They have like a bar area but just of mocktails and you know, you can add a little THC like spritzer on there. You can smoke all the things, yes, no, with all the things. I should say. You can't smoke everything. You can't smoke everything, yeah.
Speaker 2:But they have a lot of different like devices you can use at your table. They have like a, you know, like a bar area where you can like pass a joint along with, like your friend, um, you can walk around. They're gonna have to. So today is carol g, like a carol g tribute night, so they're gonna have like um mexican reggaeton bachata, like a lot of latino music, and it's sold out, so so it should be a good time.
Speaker 1:Wow, I didn't know. So do they do things every night, or what?
Speaker 2:I was seeing that they have live music pretty consistently. I don't know if they're always a good theme, but I don't know it should be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, does this place have food?
Speaker 2:Yes, it does. And I heard good things about the food there.
Speaker 1:Okay, and it's not all marijuana or THC or CBD infused.
Speaker 2:No, it's regular food.
Speaker 1:So they can't.
Speaker 2:I think you can maybe have like a sauce that is, but the food itself is regular.
Speaker 1:It's regular food, got it? Okay? Well, I'm excited to see how this is going, to see what you know, what the vibes are giving. Yeah, um, well, and happy birthday again. We're gonna have ourselves a good old time tonight I'm excited to see pofiana step out I mean she may or may not.
Speaker 1:um, I definitely paris was asking me earlier if I was gonna drink anything, so I so I was like I don't think. So yeah, maybe just drinking some soda water, a little lime and maybe, you know, puff a joint, but I doubt it, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Well, that's cute. I'm excited for this place. I saw what was it a couple of weeks ago that they were starting to open up more places that allow you to smoke weed in and lounges. I saw like a paint, a painting place where you could do um, where you can paint, drink wine and smoke oh, it's like a paint and puff or something I guess.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah and um, I was like, oh, this is cool, you know, like yeah this is cute, um, you know, I don't really smoke like that, so I'm like, okay, that's cute for the people, that the girlies I love to you know smoke and want to be out and do it amongst the peoples, um, but I'm almost a year.
Speaker 2:I'm about to be a year this weekend yes, of no drinking yeah, how do you feel about it? I feel good. I feel like my body feels good, like my mind feels good, um, on top of like going to the gym and, just like you know, um taking care of myself, like watching more, like what I eat and everything like that, like I feel good I love you she doesn't feel 34 well, that's good, as you shouldn't.
Speaker 1:I mean the 34, they say, is the new 20, so I mean you can tell my, can tell my knees and my back that.
Speaker 2:But Right the other day that I was here that I was like I had gotten on my knees to show you something, I think on my phone, and I got up and it was like, oh gosh.
Speaker 1:Girl, it's not giving.
Speaker 2:My ankles, my knees.
Speaker 1:My everything. It was popping Girl, it's not giving. I was like, oh my God, it's popping Girl, it's not giving. I was like, oh my God it's giving honey. I can't get up. Help me up. Help me up, please, because it is giving. You know, mama got to need a little cane or something. You're right, you know, I just mm-mm.
Speaker 2:You're going to need some knee pads later tonight.
Speaker 1:Girl, you know, something's given. I don't know what I'm gonna do because it's getting old honey I just 40.
Speaker 1:I got so excited that today, because we went the other, so it is full-on tourist season, all the tourists are touristing. And, um, our little niece, it was her birthday on Wednesday. It was also Maureen's birthday. Shout out to Mo, uh, on her birthday on Wednesday as well. So we went and we had dinner at the house. Um, her the little, uh, um, the baby's house. What was I going with this? I lost my train of thought. Tourists were touristing, it was her birthday, our knees popping, our knees popping. Ah, that's where it was.
Speaker 1:So her mom's a nurse and she had those lidocaine patches. And when all the stuff on my back started, I, the doctor, was like, oh, you can get some lidocaine patches, you can get them over the at the drugstore. He wouldn't prescribe them to me Cause it's a different type of patch. So she had some and I got so excited and I took like five or six of them g things and I was like, oh, my god, I can't wait to use one because the other pat. The salon patches are good, they work. Um, the big ones are good and work too, but the big lidocaine salon patches, they don't stick. But these bad boys, they stay on. Honey, honey, they are given that, um, we're going nowhere. We're here to treat your back and that is what we're here for. Yeah, so I'm excited to see you someday when I'm like in real pain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I've only tried the light of Kim patches once. I knew I think it was like a jelly kind of one, so it didn't really stick. I had to like hold it or something like a shirt over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I hope that works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, if you don't have like an, a Spanish, or if you have like lotion on, they're definitely not going to stick at all.
Speaker 2:So I think the lotion, yeah.
Speaker 1:So last week I went to the beyonce concert, um, and cowboy carter is in full swing, so I have myself a yang dang doodle, um. So we went on the may 4th night, which the internet and tiktok has been saying that May 4th was one of the best shows since the concert has started and opened. It was good. I loved it. I enjoyed it. Mama puts on a great show, as always.
Speaker 1:I think our seats were really good because we sat, but we did have a little bit of an obstructive view, but it was fine. I mean, I didn't have any issues. I could see from where I was standing, everything. So I was fine with that. Um, but from start to finish it was amazing. We got to see Blue Ivy she stomped out on the stage and gave us a show. And we got to see Rumi she came out and did her little thing and it was fantastic. One thing that was not fantastic was the LA traffic, though. Baby, I don't know what's up with these LA la drivers, but it's not for the week in the faint-hearted and? Um, I just you know, it's not something that I feel like I need to do all the time at all, uh, because it was a mess ever again ever again.
Speaker 1:I was leaving from from San Diego and got and was trying to get on the freeway here and some lady tried to t-ball me. Then I get, I'm like halfway to where we're going because we were, I was like on this express road and this like black van turns his blinker on once and then swerves into my lane.
Speaker 2:What the heck.
Speaker 1:No, I ended up driving because the train was gonna be like oh, I had to take a train and a bus, so I was like it's no point, like if I'm gonna get on the bus, I might as well just get in my car.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, you didn't want to get on the bus for it no, the train is one thing, but then getting on the bus was like get out, I mean, especially if I'm paying for business class. There's no business class on the bus. It was okay, I didn't need to do it there's no cocktail.
Speaker 1:No like, what am I doing here? So, um, yeah, I just ended up driving and it took less time to drive, excuse me. So, girl, these are tired. It took, um, it took an hour, and it took maybe two, like an hour and like 50 minutes, two hours to get there.
Speaker 1:It would have taken three hours to get there if I took the train your brother uh, yes, he drove from the bay down to la um, took him about five or six hours or so, and he took a tesla um and he had to stop and recharge a couple of times and I was like I knew you was gonna have to stop, uh, because of that battery that you have to recharge. And then tesla cars are, um, they don't have that much knowledge for, especially not the older ones. No, the older ones, I think they, when they were starting, it was like 250 um for like a full charge, 250 miles, so, um, so, yes, but the beyonce concert was fabulous. It was fantastic, I think. Yeah, I had some really good seeds.
Speaker 1:Where I was sitting was where she got on the horseshoe right in front of me and she waved and said hi to all of us behind her and, you know, was all up and around the stadium and parts of it. She's like in a red car that she flies over the audience with with the camera. Yes, yeah, like an automobile. Um, that's nice. Yeah, she has a lot of like automobile and animatronics. Uh, she has the bull, uh, bulls, because some of the dancers are on bulls as well, like this big gold bull. Um, she has the, this cocktail pourer for pours Sir Davis in her glass when she's going back down into the stage. It was a really good show, very cool, and all the visuals were really nice. Yeah, I enjoyed it. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2:That's good. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You guys look nice too thank you.
Speaker 1:You know, we took a lot of shots of tequila before we left the hotel, so we were having ourselves a good time and you should until we had to walk like a mile to get on the shuttle bus to go back to the hotel, which took an additional like 30, 20 minutes to get back. So that was a whole thing. But other than that, yeah, we had ourselves a yang dang doodle, we drank some tequila and enjoyed ourselves. You know. And it's funny because I told myself that I was like I want to be on the floor one day for a Beyonce concert.
Speaker 1:But every time I go to a concert and then I think about being on the floor, I'm like I don't want to be down there with them people. I'm like the most I would do is that they have like an elevated F section, but I'm pretty sure it's for a handicap. I'm like if I can go in there, then that'd be great, because technically I'm on the floor, but not really on the floor. It's like a VIP little upper off the ground section. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:The floor, but the floor is more expensive, right?
Speaker 1:It depends. I mean I found some tickets in like the F4 or F3 section that were only $300. Just the same as what I paid for the seats we had, Okay. So I mean, you know, I don't do that pre-sale shit, I'm not paying for that that early on. I'm not paying for that that early on. But what I will say is after going and realizing all the things that she had there, like the wristbands, like I have my wristband there. It lights up and makes the whole show super interactive.
Speaker 1:They handed out free shots of Sir Davis with, like a little cocktail. They handed out some free samples of the themed cocktails for the show. So you know, oh, you did. Yeah, so all of that stuff like you kind of like prepaid for and that you're going to essentially get for free. I mean now I get why the price is the price for the tickets and then when you're on the floor you're obviously playing for the view and the interaction with the dancers and you know all of that. So I get it. Yeah, my show was pretty packed. The only where we sat was not necessarily full, but everywhere other seat else was packed with people. So you know all that talk about ticket sales, I didn't really see any issues. It wasn't giving tickets sell problems.
Speaker 2:I feel like with like certain artists there's, there's already, there's just like that you should have that expectation of like the tickets are going to be pricier but you're going to get a lot more like visual wise and, like you said, maybe giving like you know, the free shots and having more engagement like Bad Bunny, maybe giving like you know the free shots and having more engagement like Bad Bunny. You know, I feel like it's like you expect obviously to pay more, but it's going to be like a hell of a show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Like you know, Thornhill Right Is expensive, like there's certain ones that are you know, but you just have to go in with the mindset of like that's what it is. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah if not, then I mean just I'm gone I mean well, and I think that's the thing, right, like that.
Speaker 1:The thought is, especially right now, like I'm sure beyonce is like if you're gonna come see me, then come see me. Like this is where I'm gonna be, how the stage is set up, how she does her show. It makes sense that she's minimizing it to certain areas and doing multiple shows in specific areas, rather than, um, going to a bunch of different places. It's a lot of work and it's super fucking expensive. And when we're talking about these fucking tariffs, like I guarantee, like she's like oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to all these places paying all this money. And then then the tickets, the price is really y'all gonna be mad if she did that, you know.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I get it freaking, Freaking Terrence bro Girl. Crazy.
Speaker 1:Crazy, crazy. So the Met Gala happened.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Thoughts, any outfits you liked, any things you like.
Speaker 2:So outfit-wise, I think like Zendaya looked nice.
Speaker 1:I do like Zendaya looked nice, I did like Zendaya's outfit.
Speaker 2:Is it Tiana?
Speaker 1:Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 2:She looked nice. She looked nice like from head to toe Tiana.
Speaker 1:Taylor, yeah, her little outfit, the red and the. Yeah, the little embellish red and the yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The little embellishments on the coat. Yes. She looked really nice. Sabrina Carpenter looked cute.
Speaker 1:I didn't see Sabrina Carpenter. Go back where you were right now. See, go back.
Speaker 2:Right there oh okay.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she does look nice Okay.
Speaker 2:She's like a cute, like pump.
Speaker 1:She always has like a cute little shoe on. She's so small though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's like a petite little. Yes.
Speaker 1:Rihanna's pregnant again. Yes, we love that for her.
Speaker 2:And she's once again pregnant. Yes. Thank God her man ain't going to jail. Yes, pregnant and that.
Speaker 1:Don't mix mama.
Speaker 2:I who else?
Speaker 1:I like Janelle Monae, her cool little outfit. It was very like pinstripes red white, her typical red white and her typical black and white. And then she added the red and then when she took it off, it was like it revealed like a full tailored suit. Um so the theme was, uh, super, super fine, tailoring black style, which focused on history and impact of black and dandyism in the Western world and how fashion has been used as a tool of both enslavement and liberation. That's really dope. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that makes sense. Sense like during that time it was very much so about you know the tailoring and it was very much so about how cinched you can make your waist look, the high waist pants and you know the power, uh, in your shoulders and your you know your shoulder padding and stuff like that. Um, so that everybody looked very good. Um, some more favorites of mine I love that Diana Ross stepped out. She looked really cute and her huge little cover-up with the train and the hat Love that. And I think they said Diana Ross hadn't been to the Met Gala in 20 years, isn't that crazy? Yeah, coco Jones looked really good Face always giving, and she had that nice Taylor suit on Her train, was nice and long of her outfit as well. And then she had that nice long braided ponytail which was really cute. Who else was my favorite? There's Zendaya. Yeah, zendaya Erivo. I like what she was wearing. I think she needed some pants for me. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2:You'll be like girl put some pants on.
Speaker 1:Put some pants on. I just didn't understand, like it's funny, because I was watching this guy on TikTok. I think his name was Dwayne or Dwight. He was talking giving his feedback on the people and he talked about like how some people came naked. You know, everybody always wants to do this whole naked look at the Met Gala, which is it's OK if you're going to do it tastefully, yeah, but why are you coming to these people? He said it. Why are you coming to these people's event with your coochie out, like Holly Berry had her coochie out, but it looked nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know she had, it was tastefully done, full on gown. You knew her coochie lips was behind that black stripe. But you know, looked it, looked elegant, it looked cute and holly bear looks good for 58 child.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah uh dochi, did you see hers?
Speaker 1:I did see dochi's. I like dochi, but I think for what I would have wanted from dochi was maybe it was cute, for because we know how Dolce style is, but I would prefer something a little bit more different than that. I wish it gave us like okay, so if she did like a pantsuit, right, if she did a Louis Vuitton pantsuit with the um, with the, the draping and the chain and the, you know, I think she had like a ruffle on the back or something like that. Yeah, um, let me look this up so I can know what I'm talking about um, she looked really cute.
Speaker 2:She had like a checker. Oh, this one, I don't know who she is she's an actress.
Speaker 1:What's her name? But. I liked.
Speaker 2:I like that green suit.
Speaker 1:It was cute with the little checkered um ruffle so I like this right and and I like the old tailoring, the old style tailoring of, like the tuxedo and but the bow, everything at the top is cute. I would prefer these pants to have been, these shorts to have been pants, and with matching the same classic louis vuitton monogram, because it just would have looked. I have me, it would have looked cuter and I think it would have made it a little bit more upscale with the long pant. Yeah. And she could have wore the same shoes too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like some tailored pants.
Speaker 1:Like some tailored pants. Exactly Everything else B Like you know, the hair, the makeup, the face, the cigar Understood. Get it, love it, but I would prefer some longer pants. Um, who else? Um, coleman Domingo. He looked good too. I like what he was wearing. He always looks nice when he goes to the Met Gala. Uh, who's some other the guys that I like? Oh, shabuzy. Oh, let me see. I love Shabuzy's outfit. He looked good. He got a nice little booty on him too.
Speaker 1:Shabuzy with the booty uh, shabuzy Met Gala, right with the all the turquoise, the beading, the grill. You know he got his church hat on and it does the same thing in the back with the beading and everything. He looks good. Yeah, he ate that up. I'm loving this. It looks nice um.
Speaker 2:He looks good yeah.
Speaker 1:He ate that up. I'm loving this. It did look nice. It looks nice Very demure, very demure, very cutesy. Who else looks?
Speaker 2:good, miss Winter did not really. I don't Does she just? Wear whatever she wants. Yes, people with the theme wear what.
Speaker 1:Anna Wintour is. How old? Why should she need to be out here trying to people, please? At her event she just probably put on her Her good old granny dress and them same old glasses and called it a day. How old is Anna Wintour? She is 75.
Speaker 1:Honey. She pulled up her diaper and put her bob on and said let's go, okay, and I'm here for it. Give me my brooch, give me my glasses, let's call it a day. I got to go to work, honey, and then I'm coming back to have my stiff glass of vodka and I'm going to bed, girl, and I understand, because you know I'm.
Speaker 2:She's 75.
Speaker 1:She's 75. We see each other. Anybody else?
Speaker 2:No, I think that's it. Does Beyonce not go to these things?
Speaker 1:She's on tour.
Speaker 2:No, I know, but does she go to these things? Yes, Money. I should have known better, guys. It's like because he should have.
Speaker 1:I mean, here's Beyonce here, when she had the teeth as confetti and her skin as a dress. This is when Lemonade came out. I don't know what year was this?
Speaker 2:this was 2000, and I remember the black one. Because the black dress, because that's what her sister punched.
Speaker 1:Yes, jay Z that's when she got into. They got into like an altercation. Yes, there was that. I don't remember what year that was either, but that was that. This is when this was the year before. Yes, there was that. I don't remember what year that was either, but that was that. This is when this was the year before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when they were choosing on the run or no.
Speaker 1:This when they I think they did the first on the run. This was the year before eliminated came out.
Speaker 2:She was in a ponytail phase no.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:I like that dress though.
Speaker 1:That is cute and then my favorite, the ponytail cute. This is my favorite.
Speaker 2:The ponytail look.
Speaker 1:This one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, right there. That back shot. Yeah, that is really cute. You know, see, like you said, tasteful, tasteful. You can see her butt and everything, but it's tasteful.
Speaker 1:It's tastefully done. Yes, I remember this whole little era and then she went. I think those were the three times it was this one here. I remember this year.
Speaker 4:The hair is giving by you. Oh, this year, the hair.
Speaker 1:The hair is giving me oh this year, oh, all of these. So these are some lineups.
Speaker 2:Okay, cute.
Speaker 1:This one, this one was iconic, this one with the purple at the bottom. That train went all the way down the stairway Right Mm-hmm. So.
Speaker 2:So she did go.
Speaker 1:So she has been several times.
Speaker 2:I was just asking, I don't understand.
Speaker 1:Um, what else has been going on? So I think that's it. That's all I really wanted to talk about. And the price is going up on everything.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, and the price is going up did you see that some oil refineries in California are closing?
Speaker 1:no, I did not. So people are predicting that gas prices will go up to $9 a gallon in California are closing.
Speaker 2:No, I did not do that. People are predicting that gas prices will go up to $9 a gallon. Oh boy.
Speaker 1:I hate that for us.
Speaker 2:For $87. If you get the 91 gas $87?. Maybe $10? Just for $87?
Speaker 1:I'm definitely getting that electric back now. That's crazy town. I'm definitely getting that electric bag now. That's crazy town. I'm good off all of that.
Speaker 2:It's wild out here right now.
Speaker 1:It's definitely giving wild. For what reason? I mean?
Speaker 2:I mean for one reason I'm like.
Speaker 1:It's for one reason. You know whether we want to admit it or like it or not, but it's for a reason, but not in for particularly any reason at all. All right, well, let's take a small break and then we're gonna come back and get into today's conversation bye.
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Speaker 1:So today we are gonna have a little chit chat about um, not necessarily about sex in the city, but we are going to talk about Sex and the City. Stephanie just watched the whole entire series for the first time in her life, so kind of want to get her perspective and take on it, especially being someone who's actively dating in the community and out in the world, but also because I've watched it so many fucking times. I just want to get her perspective. But I want to talk about it in a way where, because we always talk about dating on this show, we always talk about, read different dating stories and things like that. So I kind of want to talk about it in a perspective of dating nowadays and just like some of the same shit that in trends that was in the show and in the movies as well as in, just like that and amongst other things. So we're going to have a conversation and just dive into it.
Speaker 1:To start, we both did the Sex and the City quiz to kind of see who we are. Do you want to say who your character was?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got Carrie.
Speaker 1:So did I but there can't be two carries.
Speaker 1:So no, I think, um, to be honest, I think also it depends on, like, what phase of life you're into, though, right, like we know that in the beginning of the show, carrie was in her early to mid 30s and obviously, now and then, just like that, they're all like in their late, uh, 40s, early 50s, um, and, you know, living a completely different life. But, um, I do get a sense that, you know, sometimes, right now, especially in the era that I'm in, I do feel like I'm carrying the sense of wanting to have fun, trying not to take everything too seriously and trying to, you know, live my life as freely as possible. With, you know, work being stressful, sometimes doing side projects, you know, trying to create spaces and pockets of excitement and fun has become very important to me. So, you know, in that aspect I do get why it would say Carrie. And then also, I guess, judging on the people that I chose, especially like the men that she dated throughout the show, it asks you, you know, which person did you choose?
Speaker 1:And I chose Aiden. And then I chose New York as my city, and then, like, having coffee with Stanford was one of the questions, like, which person would you choose to have coffee with? I chose Stanford. One of the questions like which person would you choose to have coffee with? I chose stafford. And um, I don't know, I guess my style is classic, but I also go through phases. I'm very much so in this monochromatic phase of like greens, blues, um, and if I'm feeling like I will wear like an all black but like brown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brown, but nothing too dark brown. Not like the like bronzy, very bronzy. Brown Thoughts, immediate thoughts.
Speaker 2:On yours, on the show or me, whatever um how long? Did it take you to watch it? I don't think it took me that long. I think it took me like I think I binge watched it like in a week or two, and like that includes all the movies and everything. Right.
Speaker 2:So thoughts, I feel like I'm glad I watched it at this age at this stage of my life. I feel like I really enjoyed it and I would watch it again and I feel like different. All the characters are relatable in different ways. Those are, like my immediate thoughts. So, like you know, even though it says like, like the excuse me, like the quiz said, you know, carrie, but it's like I feel like I have parts of each one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So for me I remember first really watching the series kind of when I was in my mid-20s or I'm not, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I watched it in my early twenties and throughout my twenties, if I'm to be very honest.
Speaker 1:I guess Specifically because I was in the dating world, but also because I had a very big infatuation with New York City at one point in time, which I'm sure I've shared on the show before, and wanted to move to New York and had, you know, a desire to move there, had tried multiple times to plan to move but you know, things just didn't fall in line, which was fine and the show fed that want and need to live there.
Speaker 1:But also I had visited New York a couple of times during my 20s as well. But for me, watching it at that time of dating and being out in the world and in the streets, it was definitely a different perspective. I definitely saw myself being that all over the place person dating all different type of people, um, and not really settling down with anyone. But you know, as people say you, they don't recommend you settle down in your 20s anyway, um, but I definitely gave Carrie and Samantha energy. Yeah, in those 20, in that 20 phase, just all over the place, um, you know, having being a little hollow in the streets, um, but having a good time at the same time and safely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like um so like me in my mid-20s, like I was, I had my son, you know, and I was like in a long-term relationship and like living with someone and stuff.
Speaker 2:So I kind of experienced like going out and and partying and stuff, more of like my early 20s for a little bit, um, but I feel like this time around, you know, I've been single two and a half, almost three years. So I feel like this time around um, I'm more like okay, let me like try to date different types of people, you know, and it's like you know I gotta break my, my type, you know. So it's like I I've tried to date like different kinds of people and I've tried to approach it differently. Like the way I approached dating when I was first single versus now, it's completely different. Um, and yeah, I feel like I don't know like I do like parts of like samantha, how she's very like man eater vibes. Um, I do like parts of charlotte that are like you know, the mom, the nurturing um carrie, I do like that.
Speaker 2:She's like the free spirit like more free spirit, and then miranda's like a boss bitch you know, it's all about her career, right? So I like like little I feel like I can relate to like kind of like those parts you know also like the situation, like like you know learning from like situationships, like yeah. From my certain experiences. I'm just like no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's actually a perfect segue, because I think we have to be clear that Carrie and Big were in a situation ship through the entire series until they finally got married. I think that you know when, from season one when they first meet each other, until, obviously, the end of the series. It was this continuous battle and like this continuous back and forth through the entire series and through their entire relationship, entire relationship. And although they both they got married twice or three times, while they were back and forth through all of this, carrie was in and out of three or four other relationships and still was like dating and it just was a constant back and forth. And I think when you think about, when you think about like media and TV shows and you know dating and how you see it on television, and then you start to think about the world and the people that you're dating, you start to notice the comparisons of how you date and how it's also shown on television and there's no real big differences.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in shows like this, I agree. I think you know like I feel like it portrays a more realistic view of like dating and like the dating scene and life experiences yeah, you know yeah and battles that you go through right of, like you know, balancing work with kids and then dating, or like just balancing many things and wanting to learn from things.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I agree I mean in just thinking about wanting to learn from things like the whole situation with big, natasha and carrie, where carrie was with aiden in a relationship, started having this affair with Big while he was married to Natasha and then going so far as where they had slept together in their apartment and then Natasha had seen her and was trying to escape through the staircase and then Natasha fell and busted her fucking face open and broke her tooth. And when you think about like, like, when you have those moments of catching your partner with somebody and you know you get in that real violent space, you know there's no, that's no different than space. You know that's no different than that. You know you about to go slash this motherfucker tires because you caught him at this bitch house Right. Or like you about to go pull up because he at the movie theater with this other bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Learning from things.
Speaker 2:Definitely, definitely can relate to that as well like characters that aren't necessarily like just the girls you know, yeah, yeah yeah um, and then other like things that I feel like came up, uh, when dating different people, like like.
Speaker 1:For instance, one of my favorite episodes was Charlotte when she was dating the guy who had an uncircumcised penis and then he got it circumcised for her in the series, or they made it seem like he was getting it uncircumcised for her in the series but turns out he got it uncircumcised and then wanted to go and sling his dick around New York City because he felt like he had a whole new penis and a whole new outlook on life and wanted to get out there in the streets and share his dick with everybody.
Speaker 2:So it backfired.
Speaker 1:It did backfire. So a question for you that I have is did you feel like Sex and the City set realistic expectations for dating, or did you feel like it and city set realistic expectations for dating? Or did you feel like a romanticized dysfunction in the relationships?
Speaker 2:I feel like it was a realistic expectation um because it didn't like not every relationship was like happily ever after. You know like it showed like the. You know like I think it was like was Carrie at one point was like she was getting older, she's like I'm just tired of being single and dating and like um and it just you know. So that's like a realistic frustration and I feel like it showed like realistic outcomes. You know of like things not working or like um it didn't try to paint like like sugarcoat. You know, like dating, um, I mean maybe like, maybe like in the I don't know, not even in the Mr Big situation, like when they got married, like I don't feel like it really because it took forever to get there Forever. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, I definitely feel like they were very clear about the struggles in which the shit you have to go through in order to successfully date in a big city like New York. You know there's so many different people, there's so many different options, or be in a relationship with just one person, which was something else that you also see in the series of dating multiple people, meeting people in random events or parties and going to random events and parties with people. You see that through the entire series and even just not just with Bigrie. You know, with the dysfunction with her and aiden, her and berger, when that motherfucker broke up with her on a post-it um, her meeting the russian, and you know meeting at a museum and then running off to paris with this man, like. I think it gave you very clear depictions on how all over the place dating can be and how all over the place, how dynamic it can be when you're in a space to where all you're trying to do is find love in your person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, also, I think I guess like the only one that I'm like well with Miranda, like kind of like how she was with Steve, like I don't know, Like I didn't really like that you know which like.
Speaker 1:What about with her and Steve, though? I?
Speaker 2:didn't, didn't, like. I feel like she was super, like he fucked up, obviously, you know, but I feel like she was just really mean to me yeah like the whole time yeah, yeah and then like him, still, just like going with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, and I think that was kind of like yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I she did not treat Steve Great. I also think like she gave him a hard time. But I also think Miranda struggled with wanting to be that kind of alpha female and to. But I also think Miranda struggled with wanting to be that kind of alpha female until she finally started to let go after they had the baby together. But even still, when we're talking about In Just Like that, like she is still kind of trying to find her way, struggling with alcoholism and, you know, finally coming out of the closet in her real life and then on this show, it was a struggle with opening up and, you know, fully, kind of just being present in the relationships that she was in. Yeah, Do you feel like there's any comparisons with dating from the early 2000s to dating now? Like I mean, I don't feel like much has changed.
Speaker 2:Not really, not really, because Not really Just social media, I guess. Just social media, I guess. Like social media being more of a factor, like Instagram and dating apps, and like having more access to you know, it just seems like a little swipe or a little. Yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and just thinking about like all the shit that they went through Carrie, bigg and just all of them, it's like now we have names for all of these things like ghosting, love bombing everybody's favorite word gaslighting, and you know, I think it's just. It's interesting to watch that from that time frame to now and just seeing how just shit has never changed. Nothing is now men, exactly. Um, let's take a segue into the fashion of the show. So, um, I don't know if you knew this, but during the times that sex and city was out, it was very much so looked at for the little the girlies, um, like a high fashion show with a lot of different fashionable opportunities. The girlies loved how Carrie dressed. I can tell you that there are some outfits that she wore on that show that was not cute. One of my favorites that I can't stand to this day is that outfit with that skirt and it was like poofy on the back of the skirt and she had, I think, think, a green top on and like white pumps.
Speaker 1:No, it did not give and then the hair, the blonde, the bed hair, the big curls and like all the blonde, like oh my god, I remember it was like a thing, the big curls and like the uh, all the blonde. Like, oh my God, I remember it was like a thing during the early two thousands, the perms and oh my God, I was like, but I but I know that Sarah Jessica's park Parker's hair at one point was curling. Then she I think she did have to go back and do a perm because that's when she had that big, poofy, curly look. But in the 80s she had curly hair and it was poofy or whatever.
Speaker 1:But the fashion and style on the show at one point was like a big thing. Um, they had a set designer, uh, by the name of Patricia Fields, um, and she was a stylist for the whole series and both movies and she was um and helped create the identity and the fashion identity that the girls had on the show and the movies. Um, and you know, you always saw them wearing things like Manolo Blahnik, uh, you know, gucci, louis, this Fendi, that, um, and any other like little boutique New York stores, uh, chanel, um, and they played a big part for the girlies when they talk about like little boutique New York stores, chanel, and they played a big part for the girlies. When they talk about like creating your own style and not always looking to labels to be able to create the style that you're looking for, I agree.
Speaker 2:I liked the one of the looks. I was kind of like cheesy but I kind of liked it was the newspaper dress.
Speaker 1:The newspaper dress was iconic it was cute it was like very New York.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You can pull it off there, like as a night look.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was cute.
Speaker 1:The Dior newspaper dress was iconic, iconic. It continues to be iconic. Actually, in the sex in the city movie it was one of the dresses that she tried on, um, when she was going through her closet to move out of her apartment. Um, that dress is iconic and cute. But I mean, baby, it wasn't covering nothing up, it was definitely it was giving newspaper tissue paper wrapped on your body. Yeah, yes, but it was cute, it was. It was a very, very cute look.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think some of the other things like Charlotte's uptown look that's very classic, very vintage. She loved vintage. All of Miranda's like power look that's very classic, very vintage. She loved vintage. All of Miranda's like power suits and, like you know, the tailoring and the shoulders and very, very classic like Banana Republic. When Banana Republic was like huge for your everyday worker, business person, which is when I was working for Banana Republic like 2015, 2014. Very, very good, very cute, loved it. And then Samantha, always giving you know very high class. I feel like Samantha wore a lot of color but also wore a lot of black, but always very classy, always had a backless shoe on, always had like a heel on, but always looked good. There was never anything Samantha had on, really for the most part that I didn't really like yeah, I agree, I liked, I liked hers, hers and charlotte yeah, I like it, um, just because charlotte's like it embodied her and it always looked well put together like money.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, okay, money so I think that kind of answers. My next question is you felt like the fashion that they had kind of shaped each of the characters like. Do you feel like they did well with creating the character, putting them with the clothes that they wore, and that kind of helped create how they existed on the show?
Speaker 2:I do. I do think they did. They did well with that. You know, like you said, samantha's a gay, very like old Charlotte's like old money Carrie, you know she's just like she's very like daring, like with her you. You know her fits and fashion and then, um, randa like always had a suit or like something very lawyer ish, um.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think they did a good job in in portraying that yeah, I agree, I I also think, like when you are a fashionista or you're like big in fashion, like you take risks and it doesn't always look good. So it's understandable why some of Carrie's fits were kind of like I don't know about that, you know like it's not for everybody, I guess.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, we also can't? We also have to be clear that the early 2000s was not a fashion era. It was not an era where the clothes and the fashion was popping. It was not giving that at all at all, like you know, I do you remember, and we talked about this, but do you remember those shirts with like the bright dog girls on it, and then they would be like sliced up? Yeah, oh my God, like no.
Speaker 2:Ed Hardy, ed Hardy, back though.
Speaker 1:I just see that and Coogee.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. What Freaking Inker. Blue and like that stuff, like the emo beads oh my, what Freaking Inker. Blue and like all that stuff, Like the anal beads oh goodness no.
Speaker 1:Not the best fashion era at all. So let's move into the movies. So you watched both of the movies. I did what?
Speaker 2:did you think about both the movies? I enjoyed them. I think you know Big leaving her at the altar was like crazy, but it was like frustrating, you know, because like he was going to go back and then like he was like girl, like you know, and it's just crazy how to think too, how sometimes, like you can miss something, like and you don't even know. You know what I mean and I don't know, it was just very disappointing.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it was just very disappointing and the way Charlotte was like told him like no, or something you know taking up for her friend essentially like that was sad too, because she had rooted for him, um.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think it was just. I really enjoyed that one. The second movie was good too. They had a lot of fun on the Dubai trip.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they captured that very well.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Fun fact when I saw Sex and the City the movie for the first time, I went with my ex-boyfriend my first boyfriend at the time and this nigga was crying in the theater when he big left Carrie at the altar. And I looked over.
Speaker 1:I may have shed a tear, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1:But I remember looking over at him and I was like I guess you're crying, but I know right.
Speaker 1:But I think it also just goes back to what we started about at the beginning of the conversation, that continuous saga of carrie and big um, and I think, ultimately, if they would have did what they did in the second movie first, would there have been an opportunity for another movie after that.
Speaker 1:You know, I think it was important to give us what we have they have been giving us in the beginning, um, and you know, them planning a wedding, them getting married, because that's essentially how the series ended, um. But then you, big still being on his big bullshit, which was, you know, I can't make a decision, I've been married this many times but then also Carrie being on her bullshit because not prioritizing just her and the man that she finally loved in the beginning, and it becoming this huge circus of this huge wedding that Big has already had multiple times. At this point, and I think when we think about us as people in dating and wanting to be in long-term relationships, we have to get to a place where we are not just thinking about ourselves. We are thinking about our partners as well. Like are we?
Speaker 2:Stop it. I think that's like um, that's like a thing right now, especially of like um recognizing that you know, because I feel like it is good to be, like you know, prioritize yourself and like focus on yourself better yourself and protect your peace, but also like, uh, a marriage is like a sacred union and like it is supposed to be when to become one. That part was frustrating to me too as well.
Speaker 2:Like you want this whole big wedding and like you see, he's already like a little like embarrassed right you know because he's been married right um, but I guess you know I'm the type that I don't want a big wedding yeah like I'm more like let's get married and like go somewhere, yeah you know like so if I had a partner usually the girl wants the big but like if I had, if it was a guy and like he wanted a big wedding, I don't know, like I don't know if I could do it or like if I would want that, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, I get that. I get it has to be a balance right. Like, if one person wants a big wedding, how do we balance, like making us both happy, because it's not just one person's wedding or the other person, there's two people getting married here. So you have to find some sort of balance there. What I was also going to say was you know, I think that at some point in relationships you do have to start to be like okay, am I tapping into my old ways? Like, am I starting to do the same shit that I was doing? You know, this far, how can I make sure to sustain what it is that I'm doing? By making sure that I'm not doing the shit that I did?
Speaker 2:um, on my way here right, like the stuff I was working to heal and, like you know, resolve um, so we talked about a lot about Carrie and Big.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about Charlotte. I think Charlotte was a very big, obviously a very big character in the show and gave a whole different perspective of what dating was like, but also dating for someone who wants to be married, who wants the family, who wants the happy ending and all of that, but took her just as long to finally took her two husbands and just as long to finally find that Prince Charming and that happy ending where she ends up with harry. Um, so what was like? Because I think I remember you saying you didn't really particularly care for charlotte. Was it her that you were talking about or was it miranda? Oh, okay, so what was your immediate like? Just thoughts on charlotte overall, um I liked her.
Speaker 2:I really did like her actually um, but I like some parts. I was like girl just loosen up yeah, okay, you know like um, but like in certain things I could relate to um, it was interesting to see her uh deal with like the mother-in-law, like the crazy mother-in-law in the first marriage was uh trey yeah, that was like.
Speaker 2:That was like a real life you know um and then um, I don't know, it was fun to see her with harry, like they're, they're like cute, and I feel like he kind of like compliments her yes and like pulls her out a bit of her bubble yeah, yeah um and uh when she changed religion yes that was interesting to see too yes that's such a huge yes, thing to do especially when you know I feel like she was pretty reserved yeah so I think, making that decision, it was like a big one it
Speaker 2:was a big one and a risk, you know, because that's even if they don't work out like she's in that you know what I mean and she can get out of it, but you know no, yeah, I mean no she did get
Speaker 1:out of, but she made that commitment to be with someone. Those are sometimes part of that's. Part of that commitment, she changed over to be a Jewish because his family was Jewish. I do agree that they complemented each other well. I thought it was interesting how Charlotte had transitioned out of being with trey and was starting to date harry uh, because he was her lawyer, divorce lawyer, right and um, just how that started to change and she was coming out of her own already, kind of had lost herself in this relationship and then got with harry and you could see that there was some little bumps because she's like I'm just becoming single and now this man is in my house, butt ass naked on my white furniture oh, I remember that oh my god, I remember.
Speaker 1:I I vividly. I remember having those same thoughts when I started dating Paris, because you'd be doing the same shit and I'd be like, if you don't, get your naked ass off of my furniture because it's, it's something you have to adapt to, and it's like I grew up in a house where we always had clothes on, did you not do the same?
Speaker 2:Also, I think, like you said, it's like you're learning to pick and choose your battles. Yes, and you're like yeah.
Speaker 1:And finding a way to approach things and talk about things and, like you know, yeah a happy medium um, however, I do like how they close, or how charlotte's story finally got to the place where she wanted it um, ending up with two kids, uh, having the, the husband that she loves and adores. Um, as well as you know now where they're in it, just like that. You know, things seem to still be going well for charlotte, but still having up and ups and downs. Uh, one of her kids are they are kind of in that middle phase of not sure if they want to be a boy or want to exist as a girl, which we get to see in, just Like that and Charlotte having to navigate that as well as just navigating a teenage daughter, which can be hell, and I think it's pretty cool where we are now with them yeah um, in movie two, uh, of sex in the city.
Speaker 1:I do want to talk about miranda finally, because I think in this movie is where Miranda started to kind of break out of that business woman all about my money persona and was like more fun, that movie. I feel like she was more of like a girl's girl. In that movie she was more of let's have fun, let's go drink, I'm in my she's, like I'm in my own private air conditioning, in the fucking Rolls Royces, you know. And I just thought it was a different Miranda that we've seen in the series and in the first movie in this second movie.
Speaker 2:I did like that. I like to see that side of her. Um, I feel like it helped that it was like a whole nother country, because she's like, well, fuck it, I'm already. There's nothing I can do now, so I have to release. You know the control yeah, yeah and just like have fun with it yeah, yeah uh, I can kind of relate to that too, you know, especially like as a mom and stuff like I, you know I had never left my kids like for long, long period of time.
Speaker 1:Um and I, I took a vacation in October and to Mexico and I it's hard at first but you're just like, well, I'm already here you know, you just let loose and you have fun but you ain't got no choice at that point yeah, like I'm already here, bro, crash out on the airplane, do all the things do you think that, um, as we get to the era of the movies, do you think it shifted kind of the narratives that they had created for the characters and kind of how we have been seeing them in dating and, um, being married. Do you think that kind of shifted how we saw them once we got to the that point where they had the movies?
Speaker 2:a little bit like I feel like it was a little like you could see them getting like older and like maturing and in some ways, um and just like stepping into new, like chapters you know for themselves and phases of their life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So now we're shifting again. Now we're going to go into talking about and Just Like that. So have you watched any of the two, two seasons of, and just like that yeah, I, I saw like parts of it.
Speaker 2:I I think so I did see big um passing away.
Speaker 1:Spoiler alert I mean, I cried.
Speaker 2:I did see that, and then the fact that he left money to I think he left money. He left them both some sort of money, yeah, but he left the other girl, the one Natasha, natasha. And.
Speaker 1:Miranda's sexual awakening with Shay. Um and Miranda's sexual awakening with Shay. So this is like when she's finally coming out. I didn't see that. Okay, so you got a lot to get.
Speaker 2:It's good, but I haven't seen that and I think I saw like parts of Parts of Charlotte dealing with the teenage child and you know, and being like. Like what the fuck? Yeah, like, why does she like boys or something like that? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So and just like that is really that next phase of their lives, essentially. Yeah, you know, at this point we don't see Samantha right now because she's like we're 50 something years old. What are we going to talk about in this show? But we have other women that are kind of in the same age groups of like 50s and late 40s that we're seeing characters of in the tail end of their careers or at the end of wanting to, or after chasing after so many things through their lives.
Speaker 1:They're at that point to where they're kind of settling in, to where they're at and living their lives like it's golden and that's what I love about and Just Like that, and that's what I love about, and just like that. And then dealing with grief from Biggs dying, that was a big thing. Because when I tell you, I watched the first two episodes and was like, oh my god, I'm a mess because after all that time of all of them back and forth and chasing one another, then this man ups and dies like we finally get married and then you're gonna die right.
Speaker 1:But I mean, if you technically, if you think about it, um, so they spent, it seems so in timeline wise, I think when they finally got married Carrie was like in her 40s and then in her 50s is when he died.
Speaker 2:So technically I guess they spent about 10 years together, okay so, okay, I like I feel like if you've been in an off on and off like situation or in a relationship or whatever, like you can kind of relate to that Right. And like I feel like I could kind of relate, I could relate to that in different senses and like I don't know, is it toxic that I did that? I did want them to end up married.
Speaker 1:Who big and caring?
Speaker 2:No, no, I don't think so I was like I hope they end up together, because maybe I'm a little bit delulule, but also, like I know that feeling you know of, like you have this connection with somebody and it's like um, um. And yeah, like you, just you can't shake it. You know like you can't shake it and yeah, it's just like the internal struggle that each one of you is having, maybe like one person with commitment, one person with this, or like you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I want them to end up together Because we've we went through that same emotional roller coaster with them while being people at home, watching, and and then in our own personal lives, we've all had that person that we were like I really want to end up with this person, yeah. So what I got this person, so what I gotta do, what I gotta fight for to make sure that it happens.
Speaker 2:So now I agree and get it especially if you're like a lover girl at heart, or like you're like a lover at heart, you know, or like a romantic a romantic yeah you know, I feel like you're not just like on the logical side of like, oh no, red flag, move on you don't value yourself like, but it's like deeper than that yeah, like you actually understand, like you said, watching it and like you know for, like connecting with it and just having that, like hopeless romantic heart or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree, and thinking about how she was on the show and all the men that she dated and was with throughout the show, she had a couple of romantic partners throughout the series and ended up being with oh my gosh, oh my God, what's that boy name?
Speaker 2:Oh, I see.
Speaker 1:The dude who she dated.
Speaker 2:With the long hair.
Speaker 1:Yes, what was his name?
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:is it hold on dammit. Jared.
Speaker 1:Jared Smith, jared, jared, um, that she was with and then also, um, oh, richard, mmhmm, um, in the series. So those are kind of her two loves. But then, as she gets you know, by the time we get to you know the movies, samantha's, like you know, on her own, living her life, which I think ultimately is who she is, like, you know, very independent, don't need no man. But I'm pretty. But you know, I love the fact that they depicted her to enjoy the people and the relationships that she was with, um, and then stanford and um, uh, stanford and anthony and Anthony.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that was cute.
Speaker 1:How they ended up together.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I always forget that man's name.
Speaker 2:I think it is Anthony. Yeah, Anthony Marantino.
Speaker 1:See I was there and then how they ended up getting married in the second movie. That is cute. I did find that cute because after allegedly the story was after that New Year's Eve in the first movie, they started dating and seeing each other and that's how they ended up married. And then we find out in real life stanford have been struggling with cancer and passed away by the time we get to and just like that.
Speaker 1:So you know, I think the wedding was cute too, with the swans, with the swans and liza minnelli, and I mean very old new york gay like very, very cute. Um, the fashion at that point was just top tier and it was amazing you know it was amazing. So let's do a little like, I guess, a reality check in dating. So let's think about some dating apps. Do you think today carrie would swipe right on big? Yeah you think so? Right is right is good, right right is good. Left is now okay yes, yeah you think she would?
Speaker 1:yeah, do you think samantha would be good on tinder?
Speaker 2:tinder, I feel like she would, but I feel like she'll get over it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fast.
Speaker 2:You know, like she'd be like oh no this is not.
Speaker 1:This is not for me. I fucked him already, yeah, yeah. Do you think in terms of hookup culture, do you think the show today, with people sliding your dms on instagram and social media and different situationships and poly relationships, do you think like touching on that in the show? Um, what do you think that would look like?
Speaker 2:I, I think for sure they would like you know social media, whether that's like DM, yeah, like DMs, I think they would you know whether that's like you know them making pages like Samantha making one for her marketing and promotions, and then like Carrie for her fashion or whatever promotions, and then like carry for her fashion or whatever, and just um, maybe like running or like exes coming across their pages, yes, and wanting to follow them and reach out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that situationships.
Speaker 2:I feel like they did touch on that, but I feel like so they would obviously continue to touch on things like that. Um, and holly amory, yeah, like maybe samantha or carrie came up. You know, dated someone that you know was like that, or maybe like um miranda, you know like a like more open, you know like something more open, non-monogamous, yeah, what are they calling out?
Speaker 1:Serious, non-monogamous.
Speaker 2:Ethically non-monogamous. Yeah, something, yeah, and I yeah, that's how I would see it.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, that's how I would see it. But I feel like in the original series you missed kind of that gay culture, new York gay dating culture in the series and whenever Stanford would meet a guy or see a guy or you'll really see him interacting was always by way of Carrie or being out with the girls or them always making jokes of them getting married and being together. But now you do get more of that gay queer dating experience on the show. I do you know talking about like body positivity and gender identity, which I said, and just like that they talked about that. Do you feel like they did a good job with? You know kind of talking through and being positive about gender identity and bodies and you know making sure to uplift more than kind of being mean girls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they did pretty good about that. Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1:I feel like you know, because there was an episode all about pretty much a bunch of trans women and trans prostitutes in the show.
Speaker 2:And then Samantha got tested.
Speaker 1:And Samantha got tested. Yes.
Speaker 2:So I feel like they touched on taboo things at that time. Yeah, think it was.
Speaker 2:They did a good job with that, um any final thoughts about the shows in the movie that you know you think um no, I, you know I really enjoyed it and I'd be curious if, like they made a modern day, like if someone created like a modern day, you know, sex in the city. I don't think it would obviously have the same effect, but I mean it'd be kind of cool to just see, as long as it's a good quality and like you know.
Speaker 1:I mean I think they've tried in different ways, like they've tried to create different gay versions of sex in the city, not always all in new york, um, harlem is definitely a black and more um, in a very well written gave, the fashion, gave the looks, gave the different girl personalities of Sex and the City based in Harlem, in New York City. And there was one more show that used to come on Starz, that was kind of trying to do the same thing. But I mean you know they've done it, they've tried. Harlem, I say, was the biggest success of it.
Speaker 1:Um, but I've not seen, like you know, where you talk about, um, oh my god, the show on showtime, the gay show. Um, anyway, when you talk about, or like noah's ark, um, I don't feel like they've. We've successfully seen any other. Like gay dating shows like that, um, where they depict like a group of gay male friends, um, you know, maneuvering through big city life they're, and you know their day-to, because it gets people obviously get in their feelings about, you know, gay sex on TV, but for the most part that becomes the nexus and the core of the conversation and what they're doing, like they're not really trying to build these characters. You know it doesn't think past any of that. I agree, but that's it.
Speaker 1:Doesn't think past any of that. I agree, um, but that's it. Um. So I hope you enjoyed our combo about the Sex and the City show. Uh, we are going to take a small break and then we'll come back and wrap it all up.
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Speaker 1:So we have to talk about some things. If you've been listening for some time, then you know that we've been in some ups and downs phases of things, mostly because our schedules, our daily, daily lives and we be busy. So the show's gonna be going through some changes. For the most part, I'll still be here, but we'll be going on a little bit of a break. I'll be back in after the summer. The show will be back after the summer, on August. The 22nd is the date that I'll be back and then after that we'll see what happens. Do you want to talk about what your piece? What do you want? To say Got it Nice yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know, Dana's, you know going to take a break and come back. I am also I'm going to step back as of now, you know, from recording the show and I'm sure I will pop up here and there. You know what I mean. And, um, I'm always going to be rooting for this show and for Dana. Like nothing has changed in regards to our friendship.
Speaker 2:I just want to make that clear, you know, because I know people can kind of assume or have questions Dana and I are still best friends, family, we're locked in. Still. It's just like Dana said in regards to our scheduling right. Like you know, he has a lot of responsibility at work and you know it's not and I have, you know, as a mom and career and everything like that. So it's not fair for me to expect him to be free or vice versa. So it's just what we see is best suited for the show itself right now and for our own mental health, right, and for our friendship and just for everything. And that's what it is, you know. But I'm still like I said, I'm still rooting for the show. I'll be pop up here and there, you know, and if things change later on then we'll up to you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the plan is, as of now to this will be the final episode for the summer. I'm going on vacation and I'm going to enjoy. Yes, I'm going to Fiji at the end. No, I'm sorry, not the end, but I'm going to Fiji on July 22nd.
Speaker 1:Summer classes are about to, classes for this spring is about to end for the summer, so I'm going to just take the time to take a break and, you know, get my shit together on my end and plan the next few episodes, because we are almost at 100 episodes.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to come back and finish out those episodes in full effect with some guests and then, after that, we hit that 100 mark and then we'll be doing some rebranding.
Speaker 1:From there, you know, just look out for some new projects and I won't be going anywhere and, like Stephanie said, she'll be here, she'll be around, but, you know, on to some new things, doing some more, making some changes and continuing to give content and putting it in a space to where we um, where it's just more uh, it's better, it's consistent, it's moving forward, um, and that is ultimately the goal, um. With that all being said, uh, like I mentioned, the show is going to break. I'll be back on August 22nd and then everything as far as videos and everything video-wise, all of our videos will then all be on YouTube, so you can go and watch all of our episodes visual episodes on YouTube now moving forward. And then you can also listen. You can listen to wherever you find your podcast now, as we've always been, and after that you know the content will always be in the ether.
Speaker 2:Also, like I, like everybody, just like give yourself grace, I think, during this time, like everybody, just give yourself grace during this time, I feel like it's also good that this break is happening, because there's so many changes all over the place, whether that's in people's workplaces or cost of living, standard of living, just like all these things being passed and just so many changes and uncertainties. Um. So I feel like you know, like people, just to give yourself grace, you know, and if you need mental health breaks from anything like hot girl walks, like whatever you need to do, like journal, do it, find it, because you know right now it's probably the best time to do that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, and I feel like we've always talked about mental health on this show. We've always talked about making sure to give yourself grace. It really is important. I think, ultimately, we came to the decision to make this decision because of those things. Right, you know our schedules are two different schedules. Stephanie's a sports mom. I'm a working person throughout the week, so my free days are the opposite of her free days. She's usually taking care of her kitties and they are at sports events during the weekend, and that is the only free time that I have. So, you know, it just made sense to ultimately go in a different direction. I also think that this will give me time to create the show in a direction where I think it will be more than what it is now, which would be great, which, ultimately, I've always wanted to do a podcast show. I got lucky that Stephanie wanted to do this show with me when we first started, but I think it's going to be good for the next phase and where we're headed next.
Speaker 2:And regardless, this is something we created together. Together yes, the goal is always to see it grow. No matter who does it, you know which one of us or what direction it goes like, as long as it grows and we see it flourish like that's the important part.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. So, in closing, it's always important to prioritize yourself. It's always prioritizing, always important to prioritize, giving yourself grace, and it's always important to take breaks when you need to take breaks, and I think that you should make sure to do that. Always make sure to take care of yourselves and La la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la you.
