Coffee Chat with The Fam

Welcome back to another episode of the Hella Chisme Podcast. 

This week, we dive deep into America's caffeine culture, exploring everything from traditional coffee and tea to trendy alternatives like mushroom coffee and energy drinks. The conversation examines both the benefits and potential health risks of various caffeine sources while sharing personal experiences with caffeine dependency.

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Introduction and Patreon Announcement

Speaker 1 0:01

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Speaker 1 1:23

My name is dana and I'm stephanie and we are your hosts oh my goodness, you're getting better and better at this soundboard thing, and I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 1:40

I love that friend girl, shout out to Mike for getting us the soundboard I mean not the soundboard for getting us an air horn sound effect. Shout out to him. That's for you. Welcome back y'all. Happy Friday. We're recording on a Friday and you know we release new episodes on a Friday, so happy Friday. Um girl, before I get into the week that I've had, but tell me about the week that you've had. What's been going on? What's the tea?

Catching Up on Personal Updates

Speaker 2 2:17

Um, I've been busy and tired as fuck. I'll start with that. Last week I worked an event like a three-day event and then this week I worked another three-day event and it's just been busy like back-to-back, like very busy, yeah. And then you know, know, my son started practice with uh, he's on two teams now just like work, and then that, and then I I have been maintaining going to the gym, like just making sure I prioritize, like finding myself, like finding time for myself and maintaining my caseload, and it's been crazy yeah, I'm tired yeah, it's been very tiring, but uh, what else have I done?

Speaker 2 3:16

we saw each other last weekend.

Speaker 1 3:19

Oh, I got sick oh yes poisoning um did you ever figure out what it was from?

Speaker 2 3:28

yeah, well, I'm not. I don't really eat like red meat like that, and my daughter was craving in and out on friday so I was like okay, like I'll just eat something there and I even got it I even got it like without a bun and everything and I freaking ate it. And that night I was just like, oh my god. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was that. So saturday I was just like yakking but I was like, well, at least I'll be snatched, at least my stomach don't get care girl math.

Speaker 1 4:08

I love that for you.

Speaker 2 4:10

I love that for you yeah, but and then, yeah, sunday, I, I my son had like a photo shoot, um, and then I saw you and in your family, which I'm sure you'll talk about, so, yeah, that was good. I also went like, not like on a date date, but like on a date this week, so that was cute.

Speaker 1 4:38

I mean, I'm pretty sure it was a date Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 4:44

I'm still adjusting, like talking about this kind of stuff um okay, you know I am a, a real person and, like you know, I have a life like a, you know, like a kids and stuff like that. So I'm, you know it, just sure, you just gotta. It's just hard sometimes to talk about these things on that public platform.

Speaker 1 5:07

I understand 100%. You know? Hey, you know, if people, if you don't want folks to know about your private life, then I understand. Yeah, because people love to weaponize it against you. Right, yeah, I went in the window.

Speaker 2 5:25

Understand, yeah, because they people love to weaponize it against you, so yeah I get it so one day you'll get on here and talk about it yeah, no, but I had a good time, so it was, uh, it was.

Speaker 1 5:38

It's been a busy, a busy like couple weeks, for sure yes, um, yeah, I had a hell of a week and weekend as well. So, like you mentioned, my parents were here I mentioned that last week's episode. They were here and we had ourselves a yang dang doodle honey. I took off of work for that Friday and that following Monday, and we partied all weekend we ate, we drank, we hung out and did nothing, all at the same time. And then on Sunday, I decided that we was going to whoop it up and really go out, shout out to I guess Martel loves that term whoop. I guess whooping it up and really go out and shout out to I guess martel loves that term whoop. I guess whooping it up is from one of the housewives I don't know which one. Yeah, and so we so, sunday, um, my parents barbecued and cooked and that's when you were here and then, shortly after that, me and martel went out to hillcrest I saw you I was like I was like I wonder if he went out.

Speaker 2 6:55

So I like checked, I was like, can we just check his location?

Speaker 1 6:59

yeah, and I was like oh you did go to hillcrest I did and, baby, the next day was no good for me. Um, I was sick and I couldn't barely get out of bed all day and I couldn't even drive into the airport on monday.

Speaker 2 7:19

Yeah, it was a holiday weekend, right, so you were off.

Speaker 1 7:25

No, I took the day off. It wasn't a holiday it was a holiday weekend. I just took my day off last Monday. There was no holiday on Monday. That was the following Monday, the Monday before was President's Day.

Speaker 2 7:40

Okay, okay, um, okay. So backtrack where did you go to um out to in hillcrest? So it was just you, greg, and um, martel yes okay and oh god yeah, jello shots or no jello shots no, no jello shots thank god I'm so and it's funny because I thought about doing a jello shot, but we jello shot.

Speaker 1 8:05

No, no jello shots. Thank god I'm so and it's funny because I thought about doing a jello shot but we went. So they've turned the you remember the barrel and board place and then they have the strawberry room next door. They've completely tore it out and they've turned into a full-on club now what is it? Called. I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 1 8:21

I can't remember, but it's like a gay bar club now next door to Flix, um, so they've taken out all the food that was there and just turned into a club now, um, and it was nobody in there.

Speaker 1 8:36

I'm sure that you know, over the weekend it's probably packed, or not packed or you know, people will go back and forth from there and flicks or something like that, but, um, it's gone, the restaurant's gone and it's a full-on club, um, but we started there, me and martel, we had shots. Uh, I had a shot of hennessy, he had shots of vodka. Then from there we went to riches and I proceeded to drink. Uh, heny on the Rocks and Martel had like a high noon or something. I think Greg had like one drink. Then from there we went to Flix and I, you know I'm determined to think that anytime I go to Flix that either I know I'm really drunk already or I'm going to be sick, that after that, like it never fails, every time I go to flicks, I'm fucked up afterwards and I think it's something with their liquor.

Speaker 2 9:32

I don't you know, but I will say when I left you already like a little fuzzy and warm.

Speaker 1 9:41

I mean, I was definitely a little.

Speaker 1 9:42

I was feeling a little buzzed yeah, yeah, I drank like you had that blanket, like you were ready to read but also and and um, greg had bought some champagne, but it was sweet and I wish I would have known it was sweet before I opened it, because I wouldn't have opened it, I would have just left it in the. And I usually, when I've been drinking champagne all day I usually don't drink sleep champagne just because it's just. You know, I don't want to be sick and all that sugar will make you sick and usually that's what gives you a headache. Yeah, yeah, before you left I was feeling a little buzzy. You know it was giving it, uh, and then after that, so we went to flicks. Then after flakes, we went to first on fifth and oh, you guys were getting around yes, girl, we and we.

Speaker 1 10:39

How did you go out after flicks?

Speaker 2 10:40

for those of you that don't you go out after Flix. For those of you that don't know, flix is like the. I feel like Flix and like Riches. Yeah, it's the gay bars. They're like the gay clubs.

Speaker 1 10:54

They're more like clubs, I think. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 2 10:58

And they're like lit. I have never left there not fucked up. I don't think ever yeah sounds about right so the fact that you still went out to around to that. So you went to number one on fifth and how was it? Was it packed?

Speaker 1 11:19

no, none of it was really packed. I mean, it was a sunday night and, um, you know, usually on a sunday night people aren't there out, but not really like that. So after that, um, we went home and I passed out. I woke up with all my clothes, like all over the floor and I was like I must have had come in and just threw all my shit off and got right in the bed. Um, and then I woke up the next morning and was dying. I was like, uh, never again what did your?

Speaker 2 12:01

what did paris?

Speaker 1 12:01

say was like so you was out last night. You know he gets on my fucking nerves. He always doing the act I'm fucking most and yeah, that's pretty much. He was just talking shit and but was bringing me, you know, my ginger rails and I laid in bed all day long, I tell you, I didn't even get up. I didn't get up to be able to take a shower until like seven o'clock that night. Yes, yeah, and that was my weekend and then I went back to work on.

Weekend Adventures and Therapy Sessions

Speaker 1 12:42

I had a time last weekend and then I woke up and went to work on Tuesday and that's when the bullshit started, because it was just busy getting ready for Black History Month celebration that we had yesterday. At work, yesterday was a hot fucking mess. Just a lot of work, shit going on, a lot of shit happened with our event yesterday and just you know, politically at work has been happening and the plus side I had. So I talked to and I'll go back to what I was about to say. In the beginning of the year, I believe, or at the end of last year, I talked about, I started going back to what I was about to say. Um, in the beginning of the year, I believe, or at the end of last year, I talked about, I started going back to therapy. Before the new year came in, I stopped going to the person I was going to because I realized we weren't having really a connection and it was an older black man and it was just not working. There was no, there was no connection or relationship there. Um, so then one night I think it was actually tuesday night, or tuesday or wednesday night I started googling, you know, black therapists in san diego and came across this site called octave health, which is, uh, they have a bunch of different therapists that they can offer you and you know all all kinds of things. So I signed up, told them what I was looking for. They matched me with a new therapist.

Speaker 1 14:11

So last week, last Tuesday, I had my first appointment with my new therapist. This is black woman, you know, we're kind of the same age, same age group. She's a part of the community and maybe we've hit it off, um, and so, yes, and so we were having like a really really good conversation. We talked about a lot of different things, um, and it just was really really good. So, um, I say all that to say I had, you know, the work week was crazy, but then I had a good session in therapy and then, um, you know, friday was a shit show. I mean, that's Thursday. Yesterday was a shit at shit show at work, and so, looking forward to my next session with her, um, just just kind of talk through like all the different stuff. You know, my job is very, very taxing, emotionally, mentally, Um, and there's just a lot of stuff going on politically, and for me to be in a government job, we're definitely starting to feel it worse and worse. So there's that. And here we are today.

Speaker 1 15:19

Friday, my off day.

Speaker 2 15:22

I should get back into therapy my off day, which I should get back into therapy. I, I, um, I have had a good break, but, um, yeah, this, obviously, I uh, like the way I can relate is different, you know, obviously because our experiences are different. Um, but I also, like you know, working in a in a government connected job, that a lot of things are happening like it's really scary, um, not knowing what the future is going to hold and like where it can go so 100 and like they're, you know, just educating us on, like, if ice is there and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 16:10

So it's like you know it's a lot, for sure I do so. Yesterday I was working at an event. This is random, but I was working at an event and it was outdoors um and something bit me, like under my eye oh wow, on your face, you know me, I stay getting like bit by like mosquitoes and stuff, and it was hot yesterday and something bit me like under my eye.

Speaker 2 16:41

So it was so, and then I woke up and my eye was it was like awesome oh no so I put, like some after bite, like cream on it so it's like healthy. But I'm like what the like? It's not pink or anything, because it's like on the, you know, like underneath, like on your skin, you know.

Speaker 1 17:02

But yeah that was like underneath the little the eyelid your eye bags, yeah, or like your. I was gonna say eye bags, but yeah um, let's not put those on display. So, all in all, you know the week was great. I think we're still here, we have what we need and trying to move forward. I have started watching the Bachelor. Have you watched the Bachelor before?

Speaker 2 17:36

Many. I want to say I'm proud of you for going back to therapy, by the way, oh, thank you, but I no. I think when I was like, really younger, I watched it like when it was first, like a thing.

Speaker 1 17:48

but I don't know, I've never really gotten into it like that so I'm watching a season 29 I think it is and this season has a black guy on it, black younger guy. His name is Grant, he's 30 years old. He is a basketball player. I, I believe it looks like he used to play international basketball. Um, after, you know, graduating from college went perfect, went to the pros. He played internationally. It looks like um and I, you know, I never really watched a bachelor um, it just never was something that was like I was like, oh my God, I want to watch really. And when I tried, I just was like I can't connect to this. But this season's pretty good, I think.

Speaker 1 18:38

I just like the fact that it's a Black guy and most of the girls that he's trying to date or is dating are all like Black girls and you know some white girls, some Latina women, but you know, most of the girls I think he's connecting with are all like multiracial or Black African-American girls and he seems just like a cool dude, you know, like he's actually trying to find love, you know, looking for a wife, looking to have kids and all the things. Um, so, so far, so good. I'm only on like I have one more episode, uh, right now in there in week five, because the season just started.

Speaker 1 19:27

So it's been pretty interesting. You know, these girls are super emotional. Uh, by episode two they're already crying about this man, talking about how much they like him and how much they want to get to know him and all of that shit. And and I'm like you, I'm like y'all only know this nigga for two weeks. Like, what are we crying about? So it's been interesting. Um, I'll keep y'all updated.

Speaker 1 19:55

I've also been watching love is blind. Uh, love is blind has been back with season eight and you know, I feel like I'm starting to have this love hate relationship with love is blind. Um, because I keep, they keep starting the seasons out really, really good and then by time we move into the apartments, the shit just goes bad. Like there's one couple this season that I'm like, oh, they're for sure gonna get married. They have good banter, they're funny, they're fun to watch, um, and you know, there's no reason why I think they would say no to each other right at this moment. But you know, you never fucking know we'll see um, and then also new episodes come out tonight. So next week I'll probably have some updates, um, and then there's this other couple, who they are? Um, they clearly like each other. Uh, they're clearly in love.

Speaker 1 21:02

But one of the, the girl, is like you know, I think we should have a prenup. And the husband, the fiance, the other guy, her fiance, is like he's never thought about it, it's never been a question. They went to go see me, his parents and his sister, and she brought up the prenup and the sister was like wait a minute, what you need a prenup for? Because you know, like you, we haven't even got married and you're already thinking about divorce in case something happens, right. And you know, I think that prenups have always been a conversation that's so nuanced and sometimes can be very negative nuance and sometimes can be very negative, um, but you know, if it works for people and if it works for them, like whatever, you know, like when this, when me and Paris was about to get married, or when we first started dating, he talked about a prenup and I told him, I said we can get a prenup, but I don't know what you think, what you think think I want from you if we were ever get divorced because I don't want any, I wouldn't want anything of yours that you've already built or you know that has that you've already like worked so hard, Like I don't I don't want to claim any ownership to that, or, you know, I don't want you to feel like that I would do any of that um, and same as mine.

Speaker 1 22:29

I'm like, if there's something that we build together, though, my expectation would be that we would split that, uh, in a way that is fair for both of us right um, but that's just my thought.

Speaker 1 22:42

On the prenup part, you look like you had some thoughts I, I agree on that.

Speaker 2 22:50

Um, I do think it's to like leave with whatever you came in with. You know what I mean, like. But yeah, like I just think, yeah, like a case by case, you know, like depending on what your guys' goals together are, and like I don't necessarily think that it's like I don't know how I would feel if a guy told me he wanted to sign a prenup. I don't know how I would feel If he wanted you to sign a prenup.

Speaker 2 23:35

Yeah, I wouldn't be the same Like well, I don't want anything of like what you already you know have or have going on instead um but, like you said, if we build something or open a business or something like that together, then it just depends, like on how we you know, like what we each put into it, right, um? Yeah, yeah but yeah, I don't think it's like, oh, talking about prenup necessarily means you're thinking of divorce. I think it takes like it would take me back first, just because of the stigma around it.

Speaker 2 24:13

But you know, it's whatever works for each, each couple, and like how many assets the person has, the person has. Because also, like I'm not saying this situation but like say, say you and I have like a big business right and we're successful and everything like that, and then one of us, you know, gets married and then it's like, well, they could potentially try to come after that. Because I will say, in breakups you never, never know Money, people can get weird with money. And like yeah.

Speaker 2 24:48

It wouldn't only affect me Like it would affect you. You know what I mean, because it's like our business. You know what I'm saying. Mm-hmm. So Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 24:57

Yeah, I mean I, I think that, I think that, like I said, it's nuanced.

Speaker 2 25:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1 25:09

It is definitely a case-by-case type of thing, but I can you know, just from the show standpoint and her on the show and this particular couple, I can tell it's going to be something that is going to become an issue in the conversation conversation, and I also think that she's not full. I don't know what conversations they've had off camera about finances, but it sounds like she has a little bit more money in the bank and she she does. She also is a couple of years older than him and has been working in her career a little bit longer than him and, um, clearly makes a little bit more money than he does. Uh, which is fine.

Speaker 2 25:49

And then who wants to prenup her or him? She does she wants to be yes, and the sister said why do you want to prenup of the?

Speaker 1 26:00

guy sister of the guy said why do you want a prenup? Yes, yeah, and he ended up, but the guy is not. He's not against doing that, Cause he's like. I never thought about it and I don't think that's a problem.

Speaker 2 26:13

Right, it's always these sisters.

Speaker 1 26:15

Right, it is always the sisters, they be the ones.

Speaker 2 26:24

And the two and the three, but yeah. So I just yeah, I mean that and the twos and the threes, um, but yeah. So I just yeah, I mean that's not her place, right. So I think now it's on the guy to be like, well, you're not the one getting into the marriage, right, like if he doesn't feel some type of way about it yeah, yeah they have to keep us posted

Speaker 1 26:41

yes, I will. Um, one of the other couples that has been frustrating me is this uh, it's a couple, it's this two couple. One of the girls allegedly she was dating someone before she started the show. The guy has been having a hard time of getting past that she's dating someone. To me it sounds like he's having a hard time getting past it because she won't fuck him. She's like I'm not having sex yet, I'm trying to wait and I think he's having a hard. I think he's thinking his hard time of getting past it is if she was fucking with somebody before she came on the show, then she must not really be into me because she won't fuck me and we supposed to be engaged and getting married in a couple of weeks, and and then it adds on the fact that she was dating someone before she went on the show and then now they're engaged. So that's kind of what it boils down for me, which is some typical like, like nigga shit like I was waiting for that I just feel like, why can't women just live their lives?

Speaker 1 27:53

and if they fall head over heels for someone and get engaged, then that's what happens. Men do it every day, right, every fucking day, every day they get into some good pussy that they just so in love with and decide to put a fucking ring on it and it's not an issue. But if a woman do that shit, it's a fucking problem and you can't get past it. Yeah, niggas be acting like bitches uh, cheers to that like I can't so who's bothered?

Speaker 2 28:27

the new and gay, the new fiance or the ex guy? The?

Speaker 1 28:31

new fiance he's he's bothered. The other part is is, allegedly they know this guy, that she was dating and they're all in one of the same group of friends. However, her friends keep saying, um, well, she has not been hanging out with this dude, we've never met him. And if she was actually dating him and seeing him, like he's saying she was, then we would, we would have hung out with him, we would have known him. But we do not. Um, and although that may be a dollar, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 29:06

Why is he bothered, though? Like? Because what is he bothered about? Does she still talk to him, or does she still hang out with him, or what?

Speaker 1 29:14

allegedly the guy is saying they were just hanging out before she came on the show as well as, um, he and her have been texting as of recently, uh, but what she's saying is that he's been texting her and she isn't being responding to him so she's making it sound like um and so, and you know, they're only showing us so much on camera and there could be much more happening off camera.

Speaker 2 29:47

Right.

Speaker 1 29:48

And the way she's making it sound like is that this guy is making it all up so you never know, um who else. There's one more couple, I think. So we talked about three couples already. There's one more and these two are pretty good, but just recently, on the last episode, he also we think he has a little bit of gay tendencies, but that's fine, you know, we'll see how that goes out.

Speaker 1 30:21

Yes, but mostly because he has mentioned it was just in the conversation they were having in the pods that gave like, if you wanted to peg me, I'll let you, you know. And I was like, okay, you know, and none of that. And I'm not shaming him, I'm not, you know, shading him at all. I, that's fine, do your thug thistle?

Speaker 2 30:47

I just feel like you know what's going on here, like you know, tell us the tea do you feel like it's power play or like you think it could be a combination of both?

Speaker 1 30:58

he definitely seems like he would be more submissive to her than uh, she would be to him and I think she would like it like power, like power play kind of yeah, yeah, yeah yeah um. So the last episode? What happened was they were at the house sitting on the couch drinking champagne in their goat cups and essentially she in their gold cups.

Speaker 1 31:25

You know they, they love a good gold cup on. Uh, love is blind honey. Uh, she was sitting there and she was saying to him hey, when we were out yesterday, earlier today, I saw this tiktok of this girl talking about some guy in minneapolis because that's where they are this year, I'm sorry, minnesota and I saw this guy and I used to date this guy. He's on this TV show and he's portraying himself to be this good guy, yada, yada, yada. And she let him watch it and he goes. She's talking about me, but it's fine.

Speaker 1 32:01

You know, I blocked her. We've never hung out, we've never dated. Um, and I think we talked at one point of time, but I forgot why. We stopped talking and I'm like and he's like, but we never hooked up, we never did anything together. Um, we just were talking and then we stopped, but I can't remember why.

Speaker 1 32:21

And the girl is sitting there looking at him like I will slap you, yes, no, but legit. Like. She was looking at him like if she wanted to say like are you fucking for real right now? Like, are you expecting me to believe what you're saying to me? And she's like so, so this girl posts this thing on TikTok. You've never hooked up with her, you never hung out with her, and y'all stopped talking, and then you don't remember why, and he's like yeah, I promise you, like you know, everything's all good, I don't even talk to her. Like I blocked her, and this was like four years ago, not four years ago, um. So she was just like well, I'm not gonna dismiss what she's saying, and she's like I'm telling you now, though also, which I love that she said this. She said I'm telling you right now, if I find out there's more to this story, I won't be able to trust you and we are definitely not getting married. And I was like you go girl.

Speaker 1 33:26

And he was like, okay, and I'm like, and you could tell she is not playing. Cause she's like this is the type of shit that pisses me off and like the type of shit that made that really fucks up the trust between me and somebody I'm dating and I was like go off, sis, like let this motherfucker know that you not playing, cause motherfuckers, be on some bullshit and if it's so early on, like you could just be like it's so early on.

Speaker 2 33:57

Everyone has a past. You know, like you could just tell her like oh yeah, I used to freaking mess around with her and something happened.

Speaker 3 34:04

She didn't like it and now she's going like. You could just tell her like oh yeah, I used to freaking mess around with her and something happened.

Speaker 2 34:08

She didn't like it and now she's going on like what's the big deal?

Speaker 1 34:11

yeah right yeah I just, yeah, I. I think for me, my, my first thought was why not just sometimes? In general, I'm also like why not just be honest about it, just say what it is. But I mean, I'm struggling with my own, my own communication skills, so who are me to judge?

Speaker 2 34:40

right, yeah I mean we're gonna improve on it. But I feel like lying on tv is like you're playing with fire, because people are gonna come out of the woodwork with like receipts and all kinds of stuff and like at the end of the day, like on this dating show, like not only are you gonna hurt her, but like you're gonna fuck up your own reputation, or like what people say about you. So really you're going to play yourself.

Speaker 1 35:09

Yeah, no, 100 percent. So that's what I've been watching on TV. I've been watching that and of course, my housewives are coming on TV. Beverly Hills housewives are good Housewives of Potomac, just wrapped up there. Well, actually they have one more episode this Sunday, coming for the reunion. Good.

Speaker 1 35:35

That's been something else. And Atlanta Housewives is coming back, so I'm kind of excited about that, because Portia is going to be on the next season and Phaedra I mean Phaedra you know I've talked on here about, you know my feelings for Phaedra. I think she's funny. She can, you know, hit a good pickup line. I just want it to be fun. I don't really want it to be we're trying to take people down. I just want it to be come back for nostalgia purposes and let's enjoy ourselves and let's have a good time. That's what I want it to be. Yeah, I know there'll be drama, that's a given, but I don't want it to be that bullshit that they left off on when they were on the season together previously.

Speaker 2 36:28

So we'll see how it goes I do want to watch that season because I do like porsche like she has room for improvement, but like I've always liked porsche yes, and she's funny yeah, she's funny, she's a baddie like she's um she's. Sometimes she's like a little dingy like yes you know, I don't know yes, she's an entertainment to watch absolutely. And then her with ken I used to love her in kenya's beats because they were so stupid and they would just be saying dumb shit to each other.

Speaker 3 37:05

They were so dumb they would go like to the extreme with the little.

Speaker 2 37:10

The speaker, the head, what is that thing called?

Speaker 1 37:13

the megaphone. That's what they got into a fight about.

Speaker 2 37:16

Yeah and then, when they fought, I was like oh my god, these bitches you got too many to be doing all this dumb shit?

Love Is Blind and Dating Show Drama

Speaker 1 37:24

when Martel and then were he made us watch the episode. What was it? Back in 2006, I think it was Season 6? And they got into a whole hotel fight with Kenya and Candy got into a fight with um, with Cynthia's sister, and uh oh, it was like a party or something, or no no, it was like a pajama party and Nini was throwing it and the uh, and Apollo was there with Phaedra and like went off on Kenya's uh friend, I think it's Terrence, I think his name was um, it was just so much.

Speaker 1 38:09

And then like, so I was like, oh my gosh, I remember this happening, how social media was in such an uproar about it calling Apollo homophobic and how he put his hands on that man and it was just a mess and I was just like, when I was re-watching, I was just like, oh my gosh, I remember what a time this was like yeah, I remember that anyway do you watch the show married to medicine that um phagia's on?

Speaker 1 38:39

um, I do not watch major married to medicine. I've been told that I should be watching mary to medicine, but I just have not brought myself to watch it I used to and I liked it.

Speaker 2 38:51

Um, I haven't watched it, like with phagia on there, but there's been like a clip going around and like somehow they like they're on this trip and like apollo's there and phagia's there and I think I think apollo's like new girl or like I don't know if it's his wife or girlfriend or what, but the girl oh yes, his new wife.

Speaker 1 39:19

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 39:20

And then I saw clips of it yes, told Fajra was telling Apollo why are you worrying about who I'm dating anyways? And then he's like going off on her. And then the wife's like Apollo don't want you girl. And then she's like Fajra told her you bad body bitch you bad body bitch, yeah, and then I guess.

Speaker 1 39:46

Now I mean, this is not funny, but I think it's like there's a rumor that allegedly apollo and the wife the new wife are like splitting and they're like well, that didn't age well well, also, I think one of the things that you know I've been hearing is that they still, like, are around each other a lot, phaedra and apollo, and like he's still be all hugged up underneath her and on her, and you know, I think what it boils down to is whatever happened when I paid, when apollo went to prison and Phaedra probably just was pissed and is probably still upset and I think if they had a because it didn't never seem like they weren't in love or didn't love each other.

Speaker 1 40:36

You know, it seemed like they had a good relationship. It just seemed like Apollo was a scammer, allegedly. And I think if maybe they had a conversation, it probably would be fine and they probably would get back together. They have two kids together. So I mean, apollo is still fine he's fine.

Speaker 2 40:56

He doesn't age either, he's still fine now you can tell he can put it down.

Speaker 1 41:03

I mean, I don't know about all of that, but I don't know, I don't know he might, but I don't know, I don't see it you know anyway one thing about a baby daddy, I don't know, I don't see it Anyway.

Speaker 2 41:20

One thing about a baby daddy. Just kidding.

Speaker 1 41:24

Well, let's take a break. We are 40 something minutes into this show and have not gotten into the topic that we planned to talk about, so let's take a break. We'll come back and we'll get into the main topic for today. Bye.

Speaker 2 41:41

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Speaker 1 42:54

Um, we just thought it would be a cool conversation to talk about caffeine, uh, and talk about, you know, america and essentially how america and the world um has all has some sort of addiction or attraction to caffeine. Um, and I wanted to do a dive into that. I I think that you know my goal is to just talk about caffeine, like the history, the different types. We all know. There is coffee. People choose coffee, people choose tea.

Speaker 1 43:28

Right now there's a huge craze for mushroom coffee, which is supposed to have more healthier benefits. There is some people who don't mushroom coffee, which is supposed to have more healthier benefits. There is some people who don't drink coffee, some people who actually say that you know if they drink a nice cold glass of ice water in the morning, that that's good for them to get them awake. Some people drink their protein shakes and they say those help them get them up in the morning and some people just go work out or just have a natural ability just to wake up and be alert and to be checked into what it is that they have going on. But you know, what I would love to ask is what is your drink of choice, stephanie? Like what do you usually choose as your caffeinated beverage to start your day or through the day?

Speaker 2 44:25

I would say, like, on a day to day basis, I do go to coffee Like espresso, so I am a person that likes caffeine. Um, if it's a day that I know I'm going to be busy like all the time, but like it's a day that I feel like I need a little more of a pick me up, that maybe I didn't sleep properly, or, um, I want to get more done at the gym, or something like that, then I'll do like a sugar-free um, like a red bull um yeah, hold on one second.

Speaker 1 45:06

Hi, babe, I am, I'm sure they can hear you. Yes, what's going on? Okay, I'll talk to you later. Bye, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 45:23

Yeah, so drink a choice Coffee day to day. Energy drink like a sugar free Red Bull when I need a pick me up.

Speaker 1 45:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 45:40

Yeah, energy drink like a sugar-free red bull when I need a pick-me-up. Yeah, yeah, I am. So I I think I've said I'm sure I have that. I don't really drink coffee. I'm a uh tea drinker.

Speaker 1 45:50

I do like, um, I love a good english breakfast breakfast tea. Uh, english black breakfast tea. Uh, I do enjoy a green tea. I used to drink green tea more often as of lately the green tea. I do like matcha. Um, I love a good matcha.

Speaker 1 46:10

I've been actually looking for a way to um buy my own so I can start making them here at the house.

Speaker 1 46:17

Actually, um, and just as well as actually paris has been looking to uh start making our own coffees at the house, because we are doing our best to not uh go to starbucks or like better buzz and, you know, spend 10 15 on drinks out when we can make them at home.

Speaker 1 46:51

But I do love an english breakfast tea and I do love a matcha green tea. I also love a regular Japanese green tea because that's all really good for, like just cleansing on the inside, and sometimes I would do it with apple cider vinegar, which is also good for, you know, just your body on the inside cleansing, and it's good for gut health too, right, um, but for the most part, english breakfast, black tea, green tea or matcha is my uh main sources. I do not partake in any energy drinks because, um, you have way too much caffeine in them and I've had serious, like serious, serious issues with caffeine in the past that you know I'll talk to and we'll talk through later as we get on in the show, but for sure, tea is my only source of caffeine at the moment.

Exploring Caffeine Culture in America

Speaker 2 47:57

I like tea at night, but like caffeine free tea like chamomile, yeah, like or. I'll make. I'll boil it with cinnamon, cause I have a tea kettle, yeah like. Or the cleansing teas, like the dandelion brew. I usually try to do that like twice a week to just like lush, like you say, like gut health, like just gotta get it all out, you know yes, I mean because the here's the thing and we'll talk.

Speaker 1 48:30

We have a lot of uh. I have a lot of information here about, like, the different health benefits of it and what it could do, so we'll definitely get into that for sure, as we get through this coffee or caffeine that I think of ancient uh origins, of, like, you know, in a different in different countries, of where it's come from and everything but um, it definitely says that um tea and coffee houses in like the middle east, in Europe, uh was where a lot of these things came from and were very popular back then, and Will explored how caffeine and different cultural connections that caffeine has. I know, we know, that a lot of teas and things are mostly connected to Asian and Southeast Asian and Indian communities. I think even there's things like Turkish teas and things like that. So a lot of different countries and cultures have different tea sources or different teas that they use. Some use them for, like, healing and also have different other caffeines that they use in order to keep the body awake or to have people awake or, you know, just to be able to be active, um, but so then there's also like coffee, tea and cocoa, which we know cocoa is uh, uh is comes from cocoa, is made. Cocoa is made from cocoa and you know they use that in different things. When you like, go to a coffee shop and they say they have, um, hints of chocolate or hints of smooth dark chocolate. It's mostly when they have cocoa mixed into, uh, the type of caffeine or coffee, uh grain that you're drinking, that gives it that taste and flavor or whatever, um, and then, like, we talked a little, we're going to talk more.

Speaker 1 50:46

But energy drinks and mushroom coffee, um, and that breaks down different types of mushrooms. And you know, right now I've been seeing a lot of ads of this brand called Rise, which has a lot of different health benefits. But also they use a lot of different mushrooms in their mushroom coffee for different benefits, health wise for the person that's drinking it. And then what else? And then I mean some of the health risks we'll talk through as well. Like you know, even though we know that caffeine is supposed to be health wise, supposed to be helpful, it also sometimes can increase anxiety and it can have dependency effects and cardiovascular concerns, which you know, if you are drinking a lot of coffee and then you're going for a run, probably not good for your heart. Yeah, you know not good for you when you are trying to do high intensity cardio or working out. You probably got your heart feeling like it want to explode at your chest?

Speaker 2 52:04

um, yeah, definitely. Do you remember I know this is like a little off topic, but kind of not really remember when red bull and vodka were like a thing? Did you ever have that? Or a Jaeger?

Speaker 1 52:16

and Monster. I definitely had a Jaeger bomb and a Monster before A Jaeger shot and a Monster before. I cannot remember if I've ever tried Red Bull and Vodka. If I did, I remember it tastes. I feel like it tastes like urine a little bit. It was not good, to say the least.

Speaker 2 52:38

But do you remember like well for me at least, like if I would drink that either one and I would go to sleep, like I would wake up in the middle, then I'd like break chest.

Speaker 1 52:48

Heart palpitations.

Speaker 2 52:49

Heart palpitations like soreness. I couldn't sleep right like that. Shit was crazy.

Speaker 1 52:58

I mean it is because, essentially, alcohol is supposed to be considered a downer right, and then it's like you're mixing it with the caffeine, which is an upper. So your body is trying to decide which direction are we going in. Are we going down, are we going up? And and to where? You know? At this point, because of the caffeine, it has no point but to go up. But then it's also, you know you're mixing with alcohol at the same time. So it's like your body's in a frenzy, like what are we supposed to do with this?

Speaker 1 53:38

right um, so it's very interesting. And, yes, I do remember the the very long um popular craze of uh, rebel and baka. I remember rebel. I remember when rebel first came out and how popular it was and how so many people endorsed it, um, and then after that, only to find out the bad ingredients that was in it. I used to drink hennessy and monsters all the time when I was younger, until I found out that hennessy allegedly had like antifreeze or something in it. Um, it, or like chemicals related to antifreeze. Uh, which was interesting to learn, because antifreeze, you know, was like this yellow green color and monsters was like this yellow-green color.

Speaker 1 54:36

So not a good drink of choice, speaking to just some of the other things. So one of the other things is like Yerba Mate. Yerba Mate is another high caffeinated tea. High caffeinated tea, like Paris loves the Aramates because they're supposed to be a little bit more of a healthier benefit to the tea that you drink and it's like a healthier way to get your caffeine but also supposed to be like really good for you at the same time. And we know that South American indigenous groups such as I think it's the garani people, I could be saying that completely wrong it's g-u-a-r-a-n-i crude yerba mates, uh, which is sometimes they come. They mostly come in a can, but I used to know a guy who was Brazilian. He loved mate and he would make it at home and bring it to work in his little cup is there like?

Speaker 2 55:45

a kombucha with coffee.

Speaker 1 55:49

I've had that and they taste good they're made from a leaf, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 55:59

Yeah, because I've had them and they're pretty good and they are kind of strong.

Speaker 1 56:05

I mean yeah, yeah, alright, so yerba is oh, I don't know any of these words, yerba in Spanish, is yeah, it is Because, guess what, I've been taking my Duolingo.

Speaker 2 56:24

I'm going to be smoking that yerba.

Speaker 1 56:27

The yerba mate is made from the leaves of the Lex Paragarnis plant, which is a native South American plant. These leaves are dried, roasted and ground into a powder that can be used to make caffeinated tea.

Speaker 2 56:46

Love that.

Speaker 1 56:49

Some of the long-term use of yerba mate, especially with alcohol or nicotine, so it's in y'all cigarettes has been linked to an increased risk of various types of cancer. The caffeine in yerba mate can also cause side effects like upset stomach, trouble sleeping and fast heartbeat. So there you have it. So, and then moving into just some of the other things, just about like different types of caffeine when you drink your. What are some of the things that you feel when you drink like a monster or Red Bull or that you have felt, and, um, what makes you continue to drink them?

Speaker 2 57:41

uh, I would say that sometimes the side effects that I have felt are like heart palpitations um, or like my heart going faster, headaches sometimes um. I don't know, it really is like an addiction, like I don't drink the energy drinks as much anymore because I that's just got me kind of scared. But um, I don't know, I don't know why. I just feel like I need like the boost.

Speaker 2 58:12

I don't know, I feel like we're just so like freaking fast paced all the time, like I feel like I'm always just on the go, go, go, go.

Speaker 1 58:22

So like I don't know, like that's why, like my clutch I mean crutch, not clutch like you're causing clutch, I mean it does come in clutch especially if mean it does come in clutch, especially if you need it, if you feel like you need it to continue to function throughout the day.

Speaker 1 58:41

you feel like you need it to be able to kind of like get through what you've got going on. You know, I, I don't know, I think I wonder. Do you ever wonder, like, is there something in it that, just even though you know, you know it's not good for you, but you keep going back to it anyway?

Speaker 2 59:02

That's weird. No, not me. No you don't think so.

Speaker 1 59:09

You don't think that you know there's a chemical being put in there to make you feel addicted or to you know? I don't know who am I, who are me? I'm no scientist.

Speaker 2 59:25

I thought you were just reading my entire life for filth right now.

Speaker 1 59:31

Girl, I'm just. I'm just the podcast host asking questions. That's all we're doing, don't?

Speaker 2 59:35

shoot the messenger, don't shoot the messenger.

Speaker 1 59:37

Don't shoot the messenger. So then let's move into just talking about coffees, right? So we know there's a different variety of ways of brewing methods. We know that you have your places like Starbucks. You go to Starbucks, you smell them grinding coffee beans. You know they put in this huge big round thing. There's coffee beans, they grind it, it comes out, they put it in the espresso little masher or they have them in the bags where they're brewing fresh coffee.

Speaker 1 1:00:16

And you know, for the most part, if you don't know this, starbucks burns a little bit more of their coffee to give it more of a bitter taste, to give it more, just, of a different type of flavor, right. And then you know they make espressos and all of those things. And then you know they make espressos and all of those things. Then you have places like Philz. Philz does a more slow pour process where it's filtrated through this funnel and it comes down straight into your cup, which is supposed to be a much better tasting coffee and much more smoother taste. And then you have places that literally just stick to just making espressos, like nespresso, which most of you make at home, or, um uh, independent espresso coffee shops, and they make them in these little containers like a cappuccino or just a shot of espresso or whatever.

Speaker 1 1:01:15

Um, and you know, I think that all of these different types of ways is really just to give you options of how you take which, either way, you're still ingesting. You know the same thing, just in different ways, um, and I also think that you know, one of the things that people talk about is the different health benefits for a espresso shot versus a whole cup of coffee with all your milk and your sugar and bullshit syrups that you're putting into it, rather than just taking the shot of espresso straight, which is a very good diuretic for your gut and is good especially for it's supposed to be really good for your stomach and digestive system. So next question for you what makes you go and buy this full-on shrink, the cup of bucoa brew instead of just having an espresso shot?

Speaker 2 1:02:30

no, I do have um. I personally have espresso shop. I usually I'll put um or it'll be like uh, I'll get like a double or triple espresso with like half and half oh my gosh, yeah, a double.

Speaker 1 1:02:50

I mean, okay, go ahead, I'm gonna let you finish it and I'm like go ahead is this episode an intervention?

Speaker 2 1:02:58

no it's just kidding. Um, no, I, yeah, so I'll just have like espresso with um a splash of like half and half, and yeah, and like um, like a little bit of sweetener, and that's it. Like that's. I like that because I like the taste of coffee. I don't like um all that other stuff gives me like a headache, like the. I'm sure it might be the caffeine too, but um, I don't like all that milky. I like my coffee, like coffee.

Speaker 1 1:03:34

Yeah yeah, and so do you prefer? Would you consider if you got decaf instead of caffeinated? Do you think it would or would not have the same effect?

Speaker 2 1:03:52

I feel like maybe it'll have a placebo effect.

Speaker 1 1:03:55

Meaning effect.

Health Impacts of Different Caffeine Sources

Speaker 2 1:04:01

I feel like maybe it'll have a placebo effect, meaning, meaning, um, do I think physically it would have the same effect? Probably not like it wouldn't have the same negative effects on my heart and things like that, um, but maybe, like I'll be like like placebo effect in regards to like mentally. So mentally I'm like, oh, I'm drinking coffee, like this is going to pick me up, even if it's decaf and Zyme caffeine, you know.

Speaker 1 1:04:24

Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what if I told you that decaf espresso coffee can contain about 3 to 15.8 milligrams of caffeine per shot? So let's say you said you get three, you get three, sometimes triple shots espresso right, your triple shot of espresso can contain just about 30 something milligrams of caffeine into that shot, and if you got decaf, you can be consuming half of that and probably still get just about the same as a fact and less headaches. What's our palpitations?

Speaker 2 1:05:10

oh well, I guess I don't have to try that, I don't know, as she yawns.

Speaker 1 1:05:15

You know, like, seriously, like I think, even if you, even I feel like my, my point is saying all of this, you know, is really just coffee, tea, espresso, whatever you choose right, has a lots of different benefits and a lot of different reactions for each person. But I do think that people don't often consider how they can still have their cake and eat it too. Right, you can still have coffee, you can still have the caffeine and, just like you said, you can still have the taste of it. But how about we consider, just like some of the health values around, what we're deciding upon and, you know, make a different decision?

Speaker 2 1:06:00

just saying um, I didn't know that decaf had caffeine too at all it depends on what you're getting it from, right, like you.

Speaker 1 1:06:12

If you're getting it from coffee, it depends on you know what it is. Sometimes it depends on you know what it is. Sometimes people won't tell you that decaf has caffeine in it. But the thing is, if it's coffee, it's coffee. Like if it's something that's supposed to have caffeine, it still has caffeine, although it may be less. But whether you decaffeinated or not, it's not always 100% decaffeinated. So let's get into a fact. So coffee remains a global staple. In 2021 and 2022, uh, which was a, considered a coffee year, world coffee compensation increased by 4.2 percent to 175.6 million bags, marking the sharpest growth rate in 2000 and 2001, and this is like a surge. That was they were looking at what during uh 2021 and 22, we know was like in the middle of the pandemic, so they were having a huge, a real big increase.

Speaker 1 1:07:21

Tea so we've talked a little bit about tea, right? So tea offers a, has robust flavors and has approximately like 48 milligrams of caffeine per eight ounce cup. Now, now we're going to talk about me, right? So I love a good English black tea and usually I like about a, a what is like a 24 ounce cup or a 30 ounce cup, um, and so if I wish I had my mug, um. So I usually feel mine's like right to the right, a couple of inches before the top of the glass. So 48 milligrams per is just about almost as close to how much you can get from one cup of coffee. So I actually am doing no different than what you're doing.

Speaker 2 1:08:30

That triple espresso. However huh, you're basically doing the same as my triple espresso.

Speaker 1 1:08:38

I am doing exactly the same as your triple espresso right wait, how does it? Make you feel?

Speaker 1 1:08:42

so for me, I actually I don't have the heart issues, I don't have the heart palpitations. If I don't have a black tea, then I definitely don't have a black tea, then I definitely don't get any headaches and I have. You know, it does wake me up, it does get me going. I don't feel like I need to have anything else throughout the day. I'm really just good. After that I, you know, drink some water and call it a day you know, drink some water and call it a day.

Speaker 2 1:09:17

You feel like that's because it's from a more natural source and there's not like a lot of extra stuff involved, like the milk and all that.

Speaker 1 1:09:24

I and that's the thing, right, I only use honey and I'll use oat milk, because I like to feel like I'm a little English person with my oat milk and my black tea, but I also like to feel like I'm drinking coffee.

Speaker 2 1:09:40

You're tricking yourself.

Speaker 1 1:09:42

Yes, exactly. And then some of the health benefits from black and green teas are the rich antioxidants which may support your heart health, which is probably why I don't have the heart palpitations and cognitive functions, and then the presence of the amino acids, which also can promote relaxation without the drowsiness. So you know where we know caffeine boosts your energy. Tea will give you the caffeine, but it won't make you feel like, oh my God, I'm out here running a fucking marathon yeah.

Speaker 3 1:10:25

What are you grabbing? I need to charge, oh, got it.

Speaker 1 1:10:36

My luck's on. So energy drinks, your favorite, yes, um so popular brands of energy drinks we've talked about, like red bull monsters, have become household names. We know that, uh, offering beverages that typically contain 80 milligrams of pro of caffeine per eight ounce serving, and we know that those cans are more than eight ounces, right.

Speaker 1 1:11:02

So we're talking about we're talking about just probably over a hundred and probably over 160 milligrams of caffeine per can, if not more than that. Um, in like a red bull. Yes, because we know the monsters. They come in like those big 24 ounces. We know red bulls, I think they come in like 16 and then they have the big ones that I think are 20-24 ounces.

Speaker 2 1:11:36

Like I get the 12 ounce of red volume.

Speaker 1 1:11:41

So we're talking about a lot of caffeine in one can, yeah. And then these drinks often include stimulants like it's taurine and B vitamins, and sugar and devil and other artificial sweeteners which we know that they can definitely include pretty often and that's also conducive to you know all the things that are happening when you start to feel, get headaches and all of that because you're essentially coming down from a caffeine and sugar hot.

Speaker 2 1:12:12

Right.

Speaker 1 1:12:13

It's like crack in a can caffeine and sugar hot. Right, it's like crack in a can, but healthier than crack, because technically, the stuff that's in it is supposed to be healthier than crack. Um, so the excessive consumption may lead to increase of heart rates, which we've talked about, um, elevated blood pressure, sleep disturbance, which we've talked about. Why, when you used to have those Red Bulls and Vacas, you used to feel like you was having heart palpitations in the middle of your sleep and it's advisable to consume them in moderation. Does it say that on the can? Because I don't think it do, especially for individuals who are sensitive to caffeine. I'm just trying to help somebody, I just want somebody to be listening and I want y'all to do better with your health choices got it so you know what's crazy like I started drinking this thing, this amino acid, um powder powder for working out that helps with the soreness of your muscles.

Speaker 2 1:13:21

I had one before, but I've gone to look for that powder twice and I can't find it. So I bought this other one yesterday. It has caffeine in it and the old one didn't have caffeine. This one does and I was like whoa 100 milligrams of caffeine is.

Speaker 2 1:13:42

But now that we're talking about it I'm like fuck, that's a lot that's a lot wonder last night, because I worked out last night and then like I, like you know what, like it didn't give me the same effects as like a red or like a coffee, like it put me like in a productive mood, like it put me in a good like, in a good space, like I didn't feel like my heart racing I mean I'm not heartless going on yeah, like I'm not promoting it or anything like that, but like I don't know if it's because it is like they all are from like a natural, like leaf and stuff like that, and because of the amino acid in it.

Speaker 2 1:14:26

But I was like. But now I'm like oh my God, a hundred million times is a lot. I need to drink that shit earlier and I don't know how people drink that. And pre-workout oh we haven't even talked about pre-workout, or do?

Speaker 1 1:14:44

you have any of that in here or no? Uh, actually I did not include pre-workout.

Speaker 2 1:14:47

Let me search that real quick, because that's that's a thing. Have you seen people? I'm sorry, but I am gonna judge you. I am gonna listen and judge if you freaking do that dumb shit of eating the pre-workout powder powder what the fuck are you doing that shit you?

Speaker 1 1:15:10

can literally fucking die they take the whole scoop and put it in their mouth, and then they pour water on top of it yeah, like, why wouldn't you just freaking mix it like are you read ridiculous or what right?

Speaker 2 1:15:25

no, okay, how. How much caffeine is in a pre-workout powder? Anywhere from 150 milligrams to 400 milligrams of caffeine per serving.

Speaker 1 1:15:39

And how much is it per serving what? Like a scoop. A scoop. One scoop. A scoop. A hundred and something milligrams.

Speaker 2 1:15:46

Yeah, so like, and then not to think people have your coffee in the morning and then you you drink this just for your workout that's right, so like there's one brand I mean, I won't put them on blast, but formulated to provide you with 200 milligrams of caffeine and amino acids yeah, they're all like.

Speaker 2 1:16:12

Another one is uniquely designed with 300 milligrams of standardized nitrates 300 milligrams of standardized nitrates derived from beetroot extract, vitamin C and 75 milligrams of organic caffeine On top of that. 300 milligrams of caffeine per day is considered moderate for adults, but it can vary depending on sensitivity. This is equivalent to about three six-ounce cups of coffee or four cups of regular tea. Three cups of coffee. So it's like in one sitting you're having three cups of coffee. It's like if you're downing a triple shot.

Speaker 1 1:16:56

Basically, that's crazy so I think this leads into, like the perfect segue into, the next question how much caffeine is too much? Where do we ask people? Where should we, as people, be drawing the line of too much caffeine? Let me, let me take a break, or let me decide on this. Other than that, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 1:17:23

well, obviously, like everybody's body is different, your weight is different and everything, um, but honestly I'm I'm at a point lately where I've been trying to control more, like I haven't really been buying energy drinks anymore because I get scared, like, for my heart. I just like to give my heart a break, you know. And then I want to make sure I'm sleeping properly, because if I don't sleep properly, like it's just like a vicious cycle. You know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:17:53

And it's like you're going to eat more and more and more. You know, yeah, yeah, and it's like you're gonna eat more, like more and more and more. Um, so like for me, like I'll have my coffee in the morning and I haven't been doing like a triple shot or nothing like that, uh, maybe just like a double shot and then like that's pretty much it. But now that I have this, this powder, well, I it's 100, I think 100 milligrams is what I was reading. Let me check. Actually, what do you think is too much?

Speaker 1 1:18:26

I mean honestly, I think that your body could tell you what's what's too much, you know, if you're, if you are, if you said yesterday I'm having this cup of coffee, and you had coffee five days, six, seven, five, six, seven days in a row, and then one day you say, you know, I'm not gonna have coffee today, or I don't have time to go get coffee today, so I'm just gonna, you know, drink some water and go through the day and you have a migraine throughout the whole day.

Speaker 1 1:19:00

It's probably not good to have it every single day, um, and drink some water, you know. So, I think, for me, your body telling you that let's maybe maybe every other day, or maybe have it as a treat throughout the week and choose something else for your caffeine, um, that's a little bit more healthier and conducive to your body, um, so then that way you won't have any issues when you don't have it, yeah, um, so I think you know, letting your body talk to you and tell you what's best is probably the best direction to go, and it will tell you when it's too much. Um, I think also, one of the other things that we, you know, I think we've talked about having an episode about like you are what you eat. If you have your urine it smells like caffeine or it's like super fucking yellow or brown, then it's probably a little too much drink some kind of you know and drink some water.

Speaker 1 1:20:09

Also, I mean, when you go to the dentist, like your dentist will all, if you have such stainings and your dentist say, are you drinking coffee or tea, it's probably because you have really bad staining from either one of the two. Um, and also you're probably not brushing your teeth right and well enough for them. Then there's that. So I mean, I think just drawing the line at what makes you feel good is probably best and not what, not overdoing it, right. And I think the other thing is we didn't.

Speaker 1 1:20:43

We didn't talk about like pills there. Instead of we talked about ingestion of coffee, like through a liquid form of coffee, like through a liquid form. There are tons and tons of caffeinated pills that, like college kids, adults, that people take all day long to keep them more focused, so they can study, so they could do and do whatever they need to do to get through the day. We haven't even talked about, we didn't even talk about that. But that's another issue that has always been on the rise and that's always been to the forefront is that people continuously, if they don't want to drink it, then they're going to take it in the pill form, which is not good for you either, because sometimes those include other things other than just the pure caffeine, that could be harmful to your body as well.

Speaker 2 1:22:03

Workout thing. The powder it's 130 milligrams and it says natural caffeine 98% from tea or an organic matcha.

Speaker 1 1:22:07

Oh, okay, and that's the one you have now Too bad?

Speaker 2 1:22:08

Yeah, so I guess it's not too bad. I just got to drink it earlier, so it doesn't affect my sleeping or drink less of it.

Speaker 1 1:22:17

Right, like drink it.

Speaker 2 1:22:19

Drink half early, half at lunch, and then it shouldn't affect you for sleep yeah, yeah, because I can have it as long as I just have to drink it because of the soreness, because if not, my muscles are super sore.

Speaker 1 1:22:37

So final source I'm going to talk through is mushroom coffee. So if you have been living under a rock, then you. If you haven't been, you must know that mushroom coffee has been all the rage been. You must know that mushroom coffee has been all the rage, I would say, starting from the pandemic on. We saw a very big rise on people promoting and talking about mushroom coffee and the medical effects and how it's supposed to be really good for you rather than regular coffee. I think at one point there was this company called Mud that made regular coffee. Um, I think at one point there was this uh company called Mud that made mushroom coffee. Um. Right now I've been seeing a lot of things about this company called Rise, um, and so mushroom coffee blends traditionally is mixed with a bunch of different mushrooms, like I mentioned. So we have Lion's Mane, we have Shaga and and we have reishi. I also saw one that was the I think it's the bell top mushroom and some have shiitake mushroom.

Speaker 1 1:23:45

But all of these have different effects and are supposed to help with different things from your body as far as when you're drinking it and what it's supposed to help you do. So some of them are like helping enhance your focus, reducing inflammation and improving immune system, which you know. When we talk about enhancing focus, which is most the reason why people like to drink caffeine is to wake up and to make sure that you can focus throughout the day. And then the none of the caffeines that we've talked about, as far as, like tea goes, some of the teas do help with this, but caffeine and coffee does definitely does not. I mean, coffee does not help with reducing inflammation not from what we've been reading and talking about today unless it has a specific something in there that helps with that, um, and so we know that there's different flavors and things like that, but some of the perks of this is, um, you know, the goal is that the consumer can approach uh, needing getting what they need from this in a more calmer way rather than, you know, being super hyped up throughout the day and causing harm to their heart or body.

Speaker 1 1:25:15

They're using the different types of mushrooms to be able to help uh with your, your, your caffeine um approach, uh, or caffeine um addiction, or caffeine choice that's the word I'm looking for. Your caffeine choice, um, so that's mushroom coffee. I've been wanting to try mushroom coffee. Actually, I, they have a matcha mushroom coffee that I want to try and, um, I want to see if it's going to be good or not. I think it could be, you know, a good direction I tried it once how was it?

Speaker 2 1:25:50

it was good. Uh, it's just like.

Speaker 1 1:25:55

Uh, like you could tell, it's just a more organic coffee, um, and it didn't give me like jitters or like shakiness, like um, um or not just unnatural yeah, I mean, and I and I think when we've talked before about like, even non-alcoholic drinks have some of these mushrooms in it for relaxation, for reduction of inflammation and energy and stuff like that. So I think that it all has its benefits. It all has its ways in which it can harm you, but at the same time, there's a lot of people out there who feel they need it in order to be able to get through their days. So, from a historical perspective, in the early 20th century, coffee consumption in the us was primarily home-based uh, with per capita availability reflecting uh trends. So, like the late 20th and 21st centuries, uh saw a shift towards coffee shops. So we know that I think Starbucks had its first brick and mortar store back in 19-something and that was when they opened it in Seattle. I believe it was.

Speaker 2 1:27:25

Yeah.

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Speaker 1 1:27:26

Pike's Place, yeah, pike's Place. And then early 21st century saw a shift towards coffee houses, which increased by 97% between 1998 and 2003,. Which is, if I don't know if you noticed on Sex and the City season 4, carrie's sitting in a Starbucks coffee shop in New York City, which was in 2003, with a lot of the people sitting around, and that's when you know, she talked about working at a coffee shop. Today, over 2.25 billion cups of coffee are consumed worldwide daily. Underscoring is global appeal, worldwide, daily underscoring its global appeal. And tea also maintains a significant presence with its consumption, deeply embedded in various cultural rituals and daily routines across the continent, across the continent which we know, right like, I've been talking about tea the whole time, so I think a good way to um wrap this up is just to talk through. If caffeine didn't exist, what do you think your go-to would be and what would your morning routine be if it wasn't, if it didn't consist of you having coffee? That is whack.

Speaker 2 1:28:50

Oh my god. I guess, tea, I would just have tea, that's like non-caffeinated tea, I guess, okay, I mean yeah, or like, yeah, just like teas, like different kinds of teas, like ice, whether that's like an iced tea or like a hot tea. Yeah, what would be yours?

Speaker 1 1:29:17

um, I mean mine's would be. I think I would consider again because I've done this before getting up and working out early, because apparently that's supposed to have a boost to your energy in the day, and probably consider eating very, very clean, because that's supposed to be good for you as well when you're, when you wake up in the day and feeling more energized and stuff like that. So I think I would consider those two things you're better than me, friend. I can't wake up extra early.

Speaker 1 1:29:51

I used to wake up at 3am to go work out.

Speaker 2 1:29:54

Shit, I snooze my alarm until the last minute. Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:30:00

It wasn't something that I, you know, was always like oh my God, yes, this is great, I used to, I've done, I, actually I did it. And then I was working at the post office office. I think at one point in time when I was doing it, and so my shift was, most of the time, was starting at like 6 am, so I would go to the gym for like an hour, go back home, get dressed and go to work yeah, that was not and walk all day. He's super skinny that was.

Speaker 1 1:30:34

I was a petite little thing um if you could. If you could have coffee with any historical figure, who would it be and what would you talk about over coffee? Um, would I talk, say one more time if you had coffee with any historical figure, who would it be and what would you guys talk about? Historical like somebody famous or somebody you just are super interested in having coffee with I would have like a uh, I don't know, um, I guess historic.

Speaker 2 1:31:11

I would say like I don't know, like van gogh or something would say like I don't know, like Van Gogh or something like that, like an artist like that, like I'd be interested in like picking their brain and like seeing what they're like. Okay.

Speaker 1 1:31:24

Yeah, what about you, van Gogh? Let's see who's somebody. That's like I'm thinking somebody dead thinking somebody dead?

Speaker 2 1:31:35

yeah, like I guess I'm gonna lie.

Speaker 1 1:31:38

I would love to talk to alexander mcqueen like in his when he was like super high in his fashion era um yeah what was the guy that?

Speaker 2 1:31:48

that the louis vuitton one that fell free uh, the black guy I forgot his name.

Speaker 1 1:31:54

We talked about him, though, I think. Was he Kanye's best friend, was he Kanye's best friend?

Speaker 2 1:32:02

Not best friend, but they were like Kanye really admired him? I guess yeah, but I don't know his name.

Speaker 1 1:32:09

In summary, we know that caffeine, we know that people love coffee, we know that people love to have their caffeine. But I think the point of my conversation today was just to kind of talk through you know some different options, bring some awareness of you know what it could do to you, what it does to your body when you have it. Um, what are the different options out there? It's not to say that one thing is better than the other or to shame you, for you know what you do drink and what you um what you don't drink. Right like. It's really just to talk through some of the different options and the different things. And there's some facts about caffeine and coughing, so yeah, like awareness and education yes, so hopefully you all enjoyed.

Speaker 1 1:33:09

Um, we are going to take a break and then we'll come back and wrap up the show. Bye, right, we are back, and so are the people down zooming down the street in stephanie's house. Uh, so you know we always close out the show with a little bit of? Uh horoscope reading. So I'm gonna read what's going on, uh, for next week or for the week coming. Um, so this week brings a significant astrological events that may influence various aspects of your life, and we're looking at Venus's retrograde, which begins on March 1st and lasting until April 12th. Ooh, I hate that. For us, venus retrograde is in Aries. Prompts a re-evaluation of relationships and personal desires. This period encourages a shift from seeking instant gratification to pursuing deep emotional connections. Mercury in Aries. On March 3rd, mercury enters Aries, enhancing communication and assertiveness. This transit sharpens your expression, making it an ideal time to articulate thoughts and initiate conversations. Mercury-pluto sextile this is occurring on March 5th. This aspect brings transformative discussion that may challenge existing assumptions. It's a favorable time for deep, meaningful conversations that can lead to personal growth. Love that.

Speaker 2 1:35:01

Sounds like there's going to be a lot of talking.

Speaker 1 1:35:04

Yes, sounds like people are going to be communicating a lot. So Mercury and Aries sharpest communications and assertive across all signs. While venus retrograde prompts deep reflection into relationships and personal values. Aries and libra focus on expressing desires and reassessing partnerships. Taurus and Pisces examine financial habits and self-worth. Gemini and Aquarius thrive in social and community engagements, but should be mindful of honesty and relationships. Cancer and Clapricorn prioritize career Home matters, using this time to resolve past issues. Leo and Sagittarius seek adventures, creativity and personal growth. Virgo and Scorpio dive into emotional and practical concerns, balancing relationships and daily habits. And that's what it's looking like for y'all over the next week or so. Get into it.

Speaker 2 1:36:11

How are we feeling?

Speaker 1 1:36:12

What are we thinking, baby? It's about to be a boxing match. I am not ready for retrograde but it's okay, I still got my retrograde candle yeah, retrograde season is next month.

Speaker 2 1:36:27

Um, I don't know. I'm like I'm kind of excited like for changes and stuff. I'm like I'm kind of excited for changes and stuff. I feel like it'll be this year for me. I feel like it'll be good changes. Like it will be testy, but it'll be good. I feel like.

Speaker 1 1:36:43

Yes, yeah, which is always good, change is always good. It's not bad as people make it seem or sound.

Speaker 2 1:36:55

So you know, know, just go with it there's nothing you can do anyways yeah, I agree yeah, detached from, I guess, like expectations and stuff is wrong with it.

Speaker 2 1:37:07

Yes, yes, 100% it's funny because, sorry, wait, so sorry. I so yes, yes, 100%. It's funny because sorry, wait, so sorry. I was listening to because I didn't get to go to church last weekend or the weekend before, but I was watching the Servant Like to just walk, like your walk in your blessings, like you are already equipped with everything you need, whether that if you believe in God or not, but like from God, like you're equipped with everything you need, like the universe, whatever.

Speaker 2 1:37:50

So to just like not stress, like stress like oh, I need this blessing, I you know. Like like I need this, I need that. Like pieces. You know. Like just walk, like if you already are highly favored and highly you know, like blessed, and just like walk with that. Like dude, you know like I have a place to live, I have a car, I have this, I have that. Like um, I have people that love me, I have like you just walk with that and then, like everything else is just gonna keep like flowing to you um yeah and I think that, um, I'm trying to embrace that a little bit, you know, instead of stressing on like asking for more and like you know, like just I'm equipped.

Speaker 1 1:38:39

So just let the blessings flow to me and I'll promise I'll be a good person in the meantime well, I also think it's important just to let things work themselves out and do what they're supposed to do. Let things do what it's supposed to do, and not as long as your thought. Your intentions are pure, I'm pretty sure I feel like you know you get everything that you deserve and things will happen in the way that they're supposed to, without you having to force them or do anything additional to make sure that they happen Right, the way that they're supposed to, without you having to force them or do anything additional to make sure that they happen right. Uh, and I, so I, yeah, I believe that I think that is what we should do as people is just let things flow. Some things, some things you do have to work hard for and go after, but, uh, the things that are meant to be actually just flow to you in the way that they're supposed to and when they're supposed to. Um, so, what about?

Speaker 2 1:39:35

you never know yeah how do you feel about like, like the retrogrades and everything?

Speaker 1 1:39:43

coming. I mean, I've been working towards some new things for myself. Um, you know, I think that's why I started going back to therapy. You know I've been working on my little own side projects and trying to get through school for this semester intentions, be honest and communicate what I need, you know, and I feel like the more I do that, the more I've been getting back what I need and things have been moving in a direction of forward embracing like new opportunities If they. Jumping at the new opportunities to see if I can get, you know, something out of it has been just what I've been looking to do, just to save my mental health and to save to up, level up, to do more and be able to flex different muscles that I have or talents that I have. So, as far as, like Mercury, that I have or talents that I have, as far as Mercury retrograde me and her, she gonna have to see me at the door because I'm not tolerating no foolishness. I'm too grown for that.

Speaker 2 1:41:06

We ain't got nothing to talk about.

Speaker 1 1:41:08

We ain't got nothing to talk about, girl. I'm not here for none of it. You keep that shit to yourself, sis, I'm good over here, right? Anyway, other than that, did I tell you I got a new phone, yeah, you saw, it, didn't I see it or no, you may have seen the case, but I don't think you noticed that I have a brand new phone. Oh, I do have the new iphone 16 pro max. It's very nice, but also I had not upgraded my phone for about four generations so that's where I'm at I.

Speaker 1 1:41:50

I had the 12 pro max for years and had not upgraded until finally I um just upgraded in my and I think I said I had said a while ago that I need to get a new phone so I can like be able to go live on my phone without having to use my iPad. And so now we can do like pre shows and stuff and I could just do it from my phone or post shows, and I could just do them from my phone and don't have to worry about sound or any um other techie issues that may come up or whatever, because I can just, you know, set my phone up on the little stand and call it a day.

Speaker 2 1:42:32

Oh, that's sick, yes. I have the 12 Pro Max. Oh, it does.

Speaker 1 1:42:38

You do. Yes, the camera is really good. The front and back camera is real, real good. Oh I love them. Yes, and pretty much Verizon paid me to buy it because they gave me a bunch of money back With the trade-in of my old phone which reminds me I need to go turn it in.

Speaker 2 1:42:59

But yeah, oh, that's cool. Yeah, so it all worked out.

Speaker 1 1:43:04

It did all work out, no longer my phone sounds like it's underwater. Perfect, okay, well, we hope you guys enjoyed this week's episode. Make sure to like, comment and subscribe. Make sure to follow us. If you're not, do you want to tell them where to follow us?

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Speaker 1 1:44:13

That's right and we hope that y'all have enjoyed. By the time this episode come out, black History Month will be over. We will be moving into International Women's Day and Women's History Month in March, so make sure you celebrate and recognize the women figures or female presenting figures in your life and celebrate them and celebrate women's history. It's important and, quite frankly, without the women in the world we wouldn't be here Quite literally.

Speaker 1 1:44:52

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