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Nostalgic Beats and Building Bonds Amid Change
Welcome back to a new episode of the Hella Chisme Podcast, This week, We talk about Nostalgia. We talk through how it serves as a comforting escape amid life challenges and how it connects us to joyful memories from the past. By exploring its emotional and psychological impacts, we examine how music, culture, and shared experiences shape our present and foster community.
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Speaker 1:Welcome back in the flesh in the same room. Elections that we ain't got no family appetizers going on and now you're being a stanley cup girly pop.
Speaker 2:I just know you're having a sunny collection.
Speaker 1:I just got another one because chrissy came and we saw her. She came over one day and she said she had got an order from her, from her job. So then she was like. I was like I wanted a green one.
Speaker 1:I did want to go yeah and anyway she got ordered another one. So I have this cute green one, this teal color, and I brought it to work Because originally that's what I wanted. At work I work water tubs Because I was all about I've been all about trying to drink enough water at work and she brought me one of those.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is nice yes.
Speaker 1:I don't think you guys can see it.
Speaker 2:There, you go.
Speaker 1:Look at that. So yes, welcome back. If you're watching, then you can tell that we're in the same room together and we're in our Riverside studio, which is, I guess, our virtual background is technically us in the middle of our living room, yeah, with the window behind us. It seems to be a little rainy outside. You know we love a good virtual background, yeah. So you know we're going to see how this goes. So far it's all good, nothing.
Speaker 2:It hasn't been terrible with Riverside, but Right, it's only our like third episode on it. Yes, it's only our like third episode on it.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's only our third episode. We've been yeah, we've been using it for the last couple episodes, so you know, thank you.
Speaker 2:For your patience, for your patience.
Speaker 1:Yes, with the, the learnings and the, all the things that we've been dealing with when it comes to technology, that we're navigating. Yeah, anyway, what's going on? How you doing? Tell me stories. How's life been?
Speaker 2:Life has been lifing, I've been good for myself. I think that me consistently going to the gym has helped me a lot, just because it's a lot of anxiety recently, just like in general, and even though I go to the gym and I work out like pretty hard and stuff like I've still been waking up in the middle of the night. So I think and I've noticed I'm a huge TikToker, I love TikTok and I have been hesitating to kind of open it up now and kind of just doing it maybe once or twice a day for like a little bit, because I need to be informed and I want to be, but also like it's overwhelming at times. You know, and I have just seen so many things happening. But yeah, I think, just trying to give myself grace and only like trying to control what I can, you know, is what I've been trying to remind myself.
Speaker 2:I'm back to journaling. I've been doing a lot of audio books as well. I started this book called the Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck it's. You can either read it or audio. I've been listening to it on Audible. Sometimes while I'm in the gym I'll listen to that or music, it just depends, and I feel like it's like relevant, where I could really implement that right now. So that's kind of been where I'm at in my space along with mommying and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So I want to realize shit.
Speaker 2:How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm good. You know it's been a lot of shit going on. Like you said, I have been obviously working every day and that has been you know a whole thing, especially with all the things happening in the world, um, but you know, as much as possible trying to protect my peace and, um, stay sane and not let too much of it affect me, honestly, yeah, so that's kind of how I've been, just, you know, going day by day, mm-hmm With that. As I mentioned that we are going to be doing some kind of updates. I don't know that I necessarily want to call them DIY updates, because that's kind of where I was when we first, you know hell bent on, you know, being a rebel, which I am still hell bent on being.
Speaker 1:But so we are 11 days into this new administration and first the beginning of the week, as I mentioned in the last episode, donald Trump has rolled back diversity, equity, inclusion at a federal level. So any federal government agencies has been ordered to take any DEI measures or policies out of their agencies and including the employees. So and I talked a little bit about that and what that meant last week, but just to provide a little bit more insight, so that essentially means that employees have been was given a notice to that they were going to be eliminating ZI and that they would be, you know, essentially being removed from the company or fired essentially, essentially being removed from the company or fired essentially. Since then they issued a letter to these employees that they can buy into this retirement, so to speak, where they would have until February 6th to opt into this program where they would be paid their salary up until September starting, when they would opt out of being a part of the agency and in the role they're in. So that was, you know, that was an option, and then, essentially, if they don't opt out by February 6th, then they will be essentially terminated, which, whew, girl.
Speaker 1:And then, you know, since then we've also had plans to stop, you know, any preventative measure, medication, like some people are on pep and prep, you know, for HIV and AIDS, and then also medication for people who are taking medication for HIV and AIDS who have already been diagnosed and have been taking care of it for years. Um, that's been a part of the conversation as well. Stopping that. And then also the freezing of federal funding for lots of different agencies that rely on federal funding to continue to run and to continue to be functional for the world and people in the world. Donald Trump has decided to put a freeze to those dollars as well, which has affected a lot of different people, including, you know, my agency that I work for, and that has been a thing as well.
Speaker 1:The next day they did, the courts did try to roll back the freeze. However, it did still tie up a lot of dollars for some people, especially people who are on Medicaid, who have to pay into their Medicaid in order to even be able to use their Medicaid, and also, you know, any food, or like CalFresh we call it CalFresh here food stamps for everybody else, for them to be able to buy food and be able to live and eat and do daily functional things.
Speaker 2:So be able to live and eat and do daily functional things. So in my um, in the agency I work for, um, it has been a obviously like a concern here, at least in you know, the county that we're in it hasn't blocked any like like CalFresh. I will say that I don't know if it was a coincidence or not our system's being slow, but obviously, since the agency I work for does have federal ties and things like that, it is like a concern for workers. But you know our agency has been pretty good about giving us updates and just keeping us in the loop and giving us grace and things like that. But it is scary because these could potentially affect grants that help with child care and just so many things.
Speaker 2:And I don't know if people realize how expensive childcare is, at least here in San Diego. It's like up to two grand a month and realistically, like you would just work to pay your childcare, like if you're a single mom or whatever the case is like. That's not feasible. And also, I wanted to just backtrack real quick. I was just having this conversation with some friends and just like educating them on what DEI is, because you know people are seeing these boycotts for certain certain companies you know, like Target, mcdonald's and things like that, and rethinking, like, where they're going to shop and just not really knowing what that is or what removing DEI completely across the board would mean and my understanding.
Speaker 2:I'll explain it, but maybe you can correct me or, like, add on to it if or is that it is a department in HR or a specialized unit in HR that helps ensure that, if you are just as qualified or if not more qualified than another potential candidate, that you are not discriminated against or the other person is not chosen just because they're white, versus you being Mexican, black, asian, like whatever your descent is, and ensuring that you know there is equality in equity in the workplace. Also, education is a big thing. I know, like you know where I work, they send us, like, for Hispanic Heritage Month, like emails and just like telling us like what that is, or like you know, latino people that have made a huge impact and things like that. Same thing for, like, black History Month, for Pride Month, and you know, just every month they send us emails and things like that and just educating us and providing like trainings and like videos and just stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yes, and so DEI in the workplace. That's exactly what it looks like and that's, for the most part, what it is. Sometimes the department can be its own department, but for the most part it usually lives under human resources in some capacity. I think the other piece is that diversity, and what diversity means and looks like, means and looks like different things. A household with a single parent is a diverse household. A person, if they're in a room full of people and the person has a disability, is a diverse room. It's not always just about race, but in the reasoning and the direction that Donald Trump has taken it, in the way that he is taking, it is directly for race and to be racist against other ethnicities and people and gender other than his cis-gendered white male self. But absolutely everything you said 103,000 percent.
Speaker 2:Also, I just wanted to say, like maybe some shade, but a helicopter plane crash being connected to DEI is insane, is insane. The manipulation and even bringing both those things up in the same sentence is Please, if you it's like you know those couples that are like they're both equally like dumb and you're like you deserve each other, so if you're believing this, you deserve each other, that's what I'll say. Yeah, because I really don't know like what else to say you know, I don't know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I was trying to look it up, I don't. I we haven't seen, oh matter of fact, the crew who was driving the uh airplane. I think they showed the. I saw somebody post the crew and I think it was just the flight attendants, um, but I haven't seen anything about the pilots for either the helicopter or the airplanes. But you know, if we want, it's just so ridiculous, no no, because he's a fucking idiot is really what will happen.
Speaker 1:And you know, if, if we're talking about DI in this space, if we're talking about DI or diversity, if these are different, if these are people with some sort of disability, then yeah, it is DI, yeah, they were diverse in that space, but that's not why the fucking plane crash. You, dumb ass.
Speaker 2:I just I don't, I feel the plane crash because there was blacks and mexicans on the plane.
Speaker 1:Yes, what a fucking idiot like I just, I don't just that, are just and people be eating that shit like did you see?
Speaker 2:so there's this video. I shared a little off topic, but it was just like it was asking this woman and she had like her little maga hat and she was with her husband and he's like the interviewer and his friend asked the husband first if Jesus Christ came into this country, would you let him in? And the guy's like yeah, and the why? Oh, this woman, she said she looked at him and said, um, when the guy asked why, she's like well, if he had the proper documentation, I would Jesus Christ Himself Newspapers.
Speaker 1:This is this is where we are at.
Speaker 2:It's wild, I will say, for making a mockery of him. You know people, you're going to lay in that bed. You make um eventually. So yeah, I just want to say, like, please do your research. Don't just talk to hear the sound of your voice and to be ignorant or a troll. Really think about what you say, because words cut and they can be taken back and your reputation can be taken back always.
Speaker 1:So just think before you speak, you know agreed just think with that being said, because we have enough of a robust episode for you guys today. Um, we're gonna take a small break and then we'll be back to get into what we're gonna be talking about today.
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Speaker 1:And we are back. So for today's episode we thought it would be just great to have a conversation about nostalgia. Yeah, um, we know. You know, I think with the times that we're in and with all the things going on in the world, people often look to, uh, things that make them feel nostalgic, or things that you know bring back memories of the past, or you know, things that brought them some sort of happiness, is a sense of being nostalgic. So I think for us we'll dive into kind of, um, you know why we crave it, what, what makes us want to go to that place, and then also, you know, talk about, like, the 90s and the early 2000s and culture and, like you know, just the nostalgic moments of the that you know, just do a little deep, dive into it. But I like to start it off just kind of asking you know what makes you feel nostalgic frame?
Speaker 2:but that's a good question. I think, um, what makes me feel nostalgic is like little thing, doing little things with my daughter that I used to do so, like the little butterfly clips that we used to use, and like, um, like the hello kitty right now, just certain things that sometimes I do with my kids that reminds me of, like my you childhood or whatever. Or seeing certain style trends, like that we used to rock, or brands or whatever. I think that, yeah, like Echo, there's so many Like the low rise jeans. I mean we're going to get into all that, but yeah, I think just all that. And then the music Music, because I feel like music for me is connected, like to a lot of memories and things. So what about you?
Speaker 1:yeah, music is my top um one that makes me feel like nostalgic, like, um, you know, especially when I listen to like the OJs and my parents love the OJs and like Earth, wind and Fire, oh, yeah and yeah, and Aretha Franklin, and a lot of the times when a lot of that music comes on it reminds me of like the summertime and when we would do long drives to like Tahoe or Orville or even just to go to like Sacramento to visit family or something, or you know, just drives in general. A lot of that music does make me think of you know back then, and just how times were. They weren't really easy, but they're a little bit better, simpler and simpler. That's it, then, what we, what we go through now today.
Speaker 1:Um, I also think you know, with us having the conversation that we had in the episode that we had about the cravings being a child and then wanting to be an adult, and then you know how being vice versa, that now being an adult and craving childhood I think you know it's a great way to now move to the next part of that conversation, which is talking about being in a style with nostalgia. But, yes, music definitely does that for me. Fashion doesn't really do it. It doesn't really trigger much for me because I our fashion then was crazy then we're crazy and different, but I don't really.
Speaker 1:When I look at if some trends are coming back, it doesn't really make me feel nostalgic. It really just seemed like, oh my god, I can't believe they're bringing that back yeah um, but music does it more for me than anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, like lisa, lisa, I know, like for me, like elton john, like queen, like certain, um yeah, like earth, wind and fire, like you said is a good one. All of that definitely brings back a lot of like childhood memories. My family was like bumping that and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Juan Gabriel is like a big one for me and my family.
Speaker 1:What Latino or Hispanic artists for you or for you know that you remember like brought nostalgia for you and your family.
Speaker 2:So Juan Gabriel is like a big one and it was more like the song like El venado. El venado and solina, solina, obviously all the girly pop baddies, latina baddies, listen to that. Yeah, like a lot. Um, you know which one too brings back the benga boys remember that because, um, my older cousin was like into like the beads, like the raver scene, but yeah, selena, even to this day like I try to listen to it, also like with my daughter and stuff, so she'll like it and for me sometimes it like I'm like, oh, my god, and I'll just start going drifting off in like memories and stuff.
Speaker 1:Definitely so, speaking of artists, do you remember were you like ever a huge like britney spears fan?
Speaker 2:I went through a britney face. Yeah, or songs I did like toxic. I liked the baby one more time. That's the one where she, where she had the skirt right and the scrunchies, that one I was, yeah, yeah. Those, I think, are the ones that stood out the most for me. Which one was the one? Toxic? Yeah, toxic is when she had the red leather suit. She was on the moon or something Like, something like she was a stewardess Like in a airplane Was that man. Let me see man something toxic.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was toxic too, yeah okay, oh, that's right, because she that's the wrong one yes, that one too yes.
Speaker 2:I did it again. Yeah, were you cause you know it was always like Britney and then Christina Aguilera. Did you choose like a team, like team Britney or team Christina Aguilera?
Speaker 1:I definitely enjoyed christina. Yeah, um, I enjoyed some britney music, but I was never a die-hard britney fan yeah I was more. I think I did like christina more than I liked same. However, whenever those britney specials would come on on hbo, I always watched them yeah, for me it was like the show and dancing part.
Speaker 2:I liked britney because it was very pop and dancing and, like you know, a whole set and everything but voice wise and just music. I did like christina, like I feel like her music would hit deep um also pink. I feel like pink it was like them three could, but pink was more like the, the rebel, and like she was on her own absolutely trip well, and I also think she was just like a badass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she still kind of is. Yeah, she still is very um like rebel.
Speaker 2:She made that one song stupid girls, right or something yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:My favorite one was about like the um, like the pill, and just like how toxic men can be yeah um, I like that song a lot, um some like when we were thinking about nostalgia and like what it triggers in the brain and just like it boosts dopamines right, right, like, I think, as we're sitting here and we're talking about, like what we liked about Britney Spears, what we liked about some of the artists of the that still are current, but at that time it's boosting dopamines with them, it's getting us excited, this is getting us excited, um, and it does reduce stress. So I think that's also one of the things about nostalgia and why people like to kind of live a little bit in the past. Um, I think you know, when we're thinking about the psychological impact as well, it's not just, um longing for the past. It helps you cope with what is happening. And then all the uncertainty that's happening in the world currently, which right now there's a lot of it.
Speaker 1:So you know, like yesterday I listened to Jasmine Sullivan had a album. I think it was the 10 year anniversary of her reality show album. So I listened to that all the way to work and all the way back, um, and then I think that you know, it's just important to never let the good shit die yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:I think that's why I try to play music too, like for my kids of like the past, maybe not like brit Britney Spears and stuff, but I do play like Juan Gabriel Selena, like some Christina Aguilera sometimes, just to kind of keep it, because our parents, you know, put us on to their music and stuff like that. And sometimes you see full circle moments, like in the Kendrick Lamar songs that he's most recently been bringing out, like he'll kind of throw clips of that like california old school and I think it's just like the cali swag of like like the funk and like the selena, like just clips like certain earth, wind and fire, like people still clip those songs, you know, and they hit here because people grew up on that and the same thing.
Speaker 1:Like you said, it's it's nostalgic well, so it's interesting, um, when you talk about like clips and people sampling music, right? So I was watching the the diddy documentary on max the other day, and not to do that?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah now.
Speaker 1:But, um, one of the things that they talked about was how. Why he became such a music mogul is because he was taking, like, old music from the 60s and 70s and sampling it and then doing uh, turning them into rap, covering them on rap songs and also then taking hooks and adding hooks onto. You know music as well, so know it's like all of those things you know when you're triggering, when you're triggering the brain to do something and engage in something is also one of the big reasons why music makes us go to that place. You know the neuroscience behind music is the ability to transport us back into time.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Like. That is the goal and that's ultimately why you know, a lot of people do do a lot of sampling. Yeah, you know, I think people loved Renaissance because it was very house and Beyonce took a lot of older house music queens and girlies and put them on these songs and it transported a lot of people back to the 80s and the 90s when house music was kind of at its peak and was at its core, the most raw and authentic and really, really good and fun. So I know we talked a little bit about Britney Spears, but what's a song that instantly takes you back to like a moment in childhood every like your teen years?
Speaker 2:I would say, like a couple of the Christina Aguilera songs Beautiful, was it beautiful? Remember that Cause that was like a big thing, because it was like one of the first songs I want to say that shed light on like I don't, was it? The video was about like, like depression or like suicide or something like that. Well, I think it touched on many the big thing when we were, you know, younger a lot of anorexia and bulimia yeah, absolutely um, and that wasn't really.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's still not talked about very commonly, but that was like it was one of the first times that it was like a whole music video shedding light on that. So I think that kind of reminds me and just all the songs that we mentioned of like britney, selena and and yeah, pink, like those were like the main, like girl ones, I think, like n sync, and them were still more a little bit like elementary school. I want to say so yeah, what about for you?
Speaker 1:I think one that's popping up in my mind right now is like tlc no scrubs. Yes yeah no scrubs. And then one more.
Speaker 2:My girls at you know which one too. What was that one? I'm getting a little tired of you. Oh yes, the three little women BLW yeah.
Speaker 1:That was a good one. I mean they, that was like a whole moment, that was so. Here it says so Britney Spears, nsync, nsync.
Speaker 2:Backstreet Boys, which you know were you Team NSYNC or Backstreet Boys? 98 Degrees that guy was cute, nick Lachey and.
Speaker 1:I didn't mind either one of them. I didn't think many of those boys was cute, honestly.
Speaker 2:You know what's crazy, what? The one I thought was cute turned out to be gay.
Speaker 1:Oh, um.
Speaker 2:Lance Bass, I think.
Speaker 1:I think so yeah.
Speaker 2:I was more like NSYNC and then my other cousin was more like Backstreet Boys and we'd be like no, like NSYNC is better, Backstreet Boys are better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did. The last fast was the GIF. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was never a Justin Timberlake fan and I'm still not really. There was another one. I was going to say Spice Girls, oh yeah, spice Girls, oh yeah, spice.
Speaker 1:Girls.
Speaker 2:That reminds me too of like young childhood, like the bubblegum shoes, like the big-ass platform Shoes yeah, had those.
Speaker 1:Yep TLC did do a lot of those Nirvana. Are you really a Nirvana fan?
Speaker 2:I listened to it but it's not. I wasn't like too much into that Queen. My dad played a lot of Queen so I know a lot of their songs. Elton John Kenny.
Speaker 1:That was funny.
Speaker 2:Kenny G. My dad used to listen to.
Speaker 1:Kenny G With the.
Speaker 2:He used to listen to that, so maybe that's why I like jazz. I like jazz beats and it's's so. So the lo-fi jazz, I can play that at work all the time what about c-pop?
Speaker 1:were you a huge fan in the 90s?
Speaker 2:I think later in high school, like a sophomore year, junior year, like that's kind of when like that was happening. Yeah, I think that's when I was like, like you start like your bad boy phase, or I don't know everything happens for everyone differently but yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1:Do you know who atlanta's more set is?
Speaker 2:let me look them up, maybe. What are they seeing? Uh sure, I used to have the biggest crush on nelly. Uh sure, sure I love cool chicks, fuck boys. But Nelly's so sweet right now with Ashanti. That is nostalgic for me. You don't like that. Nelly and Ashanti yeah, that is so cute and they just had a baby. That was like Is she pregnant again. I don't know, but what did she sing Is? It, the song the thousand miles from white chicks yeah, that was a good song.
Speaker 2:Usher beyonce outcast, outcastism oh outcast I loved their music I still like international players anthem. That's a good song over there albert levine.
Speaker 1:My brother loved albert levine. The fallout boys I liked a couple songs of the fallout boys the kelly, kelly, clarkson yeah, and of course missy young what about like limp biscuit and like blink 182? Those had a moment too yes oh my gosh, we're unlocking them all of the old tunes.
Speaker 2:I think that is I feel like in our generation, like music was such a thing, um, because we had music videos and we had, um literally our tv channels, like like MTV, bet, like they were just basically music videos most of the time. And then that's kind of when, like TRL started and then like what would? Bet had 106th and Park, like those were for me, that was, I liked that. Like those were for me, that was, I liked that um, and it was just music was just like. I don't know, it's just now. You, I mean, they have music videos on youtube, but before it was like every hit song had a music video and it was on repeat, yeah, yeah yeah, no, for sure, I I mean music videos.
Speaker 1:I feel like was one of the reasons I watched a lot of tv. I watched a lot of music videos. I remember to this day, um, like you know, janet jackson, so excited music video, or when they did making the, making the video, or I think it was like behind the video or some shit.
Speaker 1:Or when Beyonce did her Crazy in Love music video. When TLC did the no Scroves video, they did it behind the music video for that one. So, like all of those, was just a staple in time, yeah. Or like TRL, when TRL was a thing and people would come on and perform, like every Friday damn near.
Speaker 2:Remember in the summers they would do the beach like the beach bash and it was like a party and all everyone spring break and they would come and they would be singing on the beach and everyone would oh my God, you know, everyone had a belly ring. Everyone had a belly ring, the dimples on the back, the low rise jeans and shorts. Then they wondered why we came out. So party people, Like they were literally on TV like getting hammered and you're just like. I want to be there.
Speaker 1:Did you ever wear any of those shirts with, like those beachy girls, like the like pop, like girls, and they would be like like they look like brat dolls on t-shirts and they would cut the t-shirts.
Speaker 2:I think I wore like cut t-shirts with Artie. Remember that Every Mexican had it. Every Mexican was into Ed Hardy and True Religion jeans Everyone.
Speaker 1:Hair is, to this day, true Religion jeans that I can't stand, and they're kind of like wide leg and then it has like each horseshoe on the back yes, on each pocket I like the ones that were more straight legs ugly the mud jeans le le I was.
Speaker 2:It lee ollie jeans I still love levi's.
Speaker 1:I still wear yeah, levi's yeah um, what about like some things when we were in school, so like you remember the tamagotchis?
Speaker 2:yes, I always had to reset mine. How am I a mom now?
Speaker 1:I don't know I had. I think I had a total of two tamagotchis or two. I always end up having like two at a time sometimes, but um, you could connect them right or something like some point, I think. But I definitely had a couple of times and then I also always loved um. I always loved gel pens gel pens I'm still, to this day, a pen person. I have a collection of pens right over here.
Speaker 2:I'm always buying pens in elementary I went to like a Lisa Frank phase for sure and Hello Kitty. The reading book, the little book the folder I had like binder and then Hello Kitty, the pencils, the erasers, the little book, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The folder I had like binder, and then Hello Kitty, like the pencils, the erasers and the stuff that would smell like, or the little, oh my God.
Speaker 1:We would rub them on the table and then sniff them. Yeah, I mean. Or the markers my parents would never really give me enough money to buy a bunch of shit from these things. It was like $20.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like a pencil costs $10. I'm not going to have any money. I mean, yeah, what else?
Speaker 2:The jelly, the jelly sandals. Oh my God, this perfume. What is it called? Baby Baby? No, it's baby soft Loves, baby soft, straight baby powder in liquid form Everyone. Or Bath and Body Works. Were you a cucumber melon girl, or were you a vanilla brown sugar girl?
Speaker 1:I like the vanilla brown sugar Same.
Speaker 2:Or the cherry blossom. I was never a cherry blossom, my grandma is. I was always vanilla, brown sugar, same or the cherry blossom. I was never a cherry blossom, my grandma is, I was always vanilla. Like warm, warm scents.
Speaker 1:So did you have an iPod when you were in school?
Speaker 2:I did eventually have an iPod.
Speaker 1:yes, yes, I did have an iPod mini and I had the green one. I had the regular size one for a long time and that one was green too. I think I had a shuffle for a while but I don't know what happened to it. I think I stopped using it. But I did have an iPad for a minute. I had a silver one. You had a silver one, and then I mean, we still used to burn CDs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we used to burn CDs and write on the like the CD holders with pages of burnt CDs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my gosh, what about like your cell phone? Like, did you have like flip phones?
Speaker 2:I had a regular one at first, and then, yes, a flip phone, and then I had a chocolate one at first, and then, yes, a flip phone, and then I had a chocolate. I always wanted the chocolate. Let me look it up for you. What was the phone that you had?
Speaker 1:uh, I had a for the longest I had a metro. I had that metro, kiosera, and then from there we had we went to sprint. I don't remember I did. I have flip phone. Oh, I do have a flip phone.
Speaker 2:I had another key of sarah it was this one, the one that you would slide up like this oh my, gosh you slide it up and it was black oh, you know what, I had one of those yeah, and everyone had it.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got the chocolate yeah is that what it was called? Yeah, it was called the lg chocolate interesting because they look like a chocolate bar. Yeah, and then they had like different, different colors that's hilarious and it was like touch screen and it was new that it was like touch uh-huh fancy I also liked juicy couture. I was a juicy couture girly.
Speaker 1:The velvet, the ribbon and baby, fat fucking kitties on their backs my cousin was a baby fat girl.
Speaker 2:I was a juicy couture I still. Honestly, they were talking, I still like juicy they were. I think they brought back a version of baby fat and juicy couture juicy couture right now is now is back like in the stores and stuff like that. I was thinking of getting myself a Juicy bag just for fun.
Speaker 1:Bugs and giggles yeah.
Speaker 2:Like an elevated one, maybe not a velvet one, but like a leather one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Just for fun I mean that would be cute, I think I mean I don't know. So one trend from back in the day that you swore you would be was cool but now makes you cringe. I can tell you one.
Speaker 2:I would say there's so many the anal beads on the neck, the anal beads on the neck.
Speaker 1:They were called conor shells. I think Kakoa shells or conor shells.
Speaker 2:No, there was conor shells, but there was also the beads, like the Watch. Oh my God, it's so stupid, god, it was like at Wet Seal. Like everybody had those, like these, everyone had these, everyone wore these like to party crew parties.
Speaker 1:Oh, I never. No, I wore the Hawaiian ones. I used to love those yeah the Hawaiian ones.
Speaker 2:Parties, oh, I never. No, I heard the hawaiian ones. I used to love those yeah, the hawaiian ones, but these, oh my god, that was bad. And then the layering of tank tops, oh my gosh that.
Speaker 1:And then I was going to say the thick ass belts that everybody loved to wear the polo with the the long ass tank top underneath.
Speaker 2:Like layering the polos, popping the. Yeah, there's a song that says like pop my color yes, I knew this girl and these two girls.
Speaker 1:They were best friends and they would intentionally dress alike. That was another thing of that time. Everybody always wanted to dress or you know, always was dressing, like twins, especially viewers, friends.
Speaker 2:But they used to layer all of their, their shirts, like so you can put the color color out, and all of that, and I used to feel like, oh, my god, like that is a lot of effort, like to put in, I don't want into shoes, shoes, which has not changed yeah, I remember like those one, like the slip-on shoes, like the pointy ones that the girls used to wear, and they were like the plastic, like with flowers on them and, um, like you said, like the big ass belts with like the round, like the round ones, you know, like it was a bunch of circles, and then you would like clip.
Speaker 2:Um, let's see, let's reflect on the makeup real quick, because that please, don't bring that back I do not that which this was the routine you slap on your foundation which is a shade or two darker than your skin, and then you would get your pencil eyeliner and just lift your lid, put it on your lid, put it on your under lid and then mascara and that's it. Oh, and chapstick, lip Smacker, chapstick no. Eyebrow routine no.
Speaker 1:I do remember an era where no, it was, just go get your eyebrows waxed and that's all the girls were doing, and they weren't doing any eyebrow makeup it was literally like eyeliner mascara, and I mean like foundation and foundation and oh, I mean, I knew girls that would sit there for 10 to 15 minutes putting on mascara and like walking out with the spider yeah, the spider eyelashes, oh my god it's like you know, there's a lot of that on their face, like, and then when they would cry, or if they cried or wiped it off, it'd be all over their eyelid.
Speaker 1:I know a girl who got an eye infection from all that fucking mascara, or this girl. She would come in. It was like every morning she would do her makeup and when she would come to school she'll have to get a q-tip and you get all that black shit out of the corner of her eye.
Speaker 2:I'm like that's nasty and you had to have, like pin, straight hair yeah everybody was straightening their hair and I straightened my hair every single day. I would wake up at 5, 5.30 in the morning, straighten my hair the indentation here because the straighteners used to be like fat as fuck they'll be so thick and they were hot and your hair's all puffy. Oh my gosh, the butterfly clips were cute though. I do like that. Um, yeah, I do that for my daughter. Um, I'm like trying to dig deep.
Speaker 1:What's a commercial in your childhood that you remember and like?
Speaker 2:a commercial. Oh, the six flags the six. Remember, the bank of boys are coming and it was that old bald guy and he would have his stick and it would be the bus and everyone's like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2:That was a good one, you know, I remember the drugs commercial.
Speaker 1:Who does your brain on drugs?
Speaker 2:Dare, dare, yes, and there would be like an egg in a skillet, or yeah the girl that was like this in the couch and she like melted into the couch and they're like this is what happened to you if you do drugs. And she's just in the couch, like I was so scared to smoke weed. I literally was like I'm gonna die if I smoke weed because that's like what they implanted. And then once I hit it and oh my god, and I'm I'm still um like friends with the people I smoked weed with for the first time and it was, it was an experience, I will say, and we used to smoke mech what does that mean?
Speaker 2:mech is like the lowest of the low of weed of. Like it's like that dry, like brown shit because we didn't really have chronic until later on.
Speaker 1:Like that's like dirt yeah, yeah, and it smells like yeah, yeah, gross, that should sting. Yeah, I used to smoke that.
Speaker 2:I love it. Mm-hmm, I used to smoke that and then it just escalated from there.
Speaker 1:What's the most ridiculous thing you begged your parents for in that era?
Speaker 2:Hmm, I feel like those bubblegum shoes were just like I really wanted them, those big-ass platform. Let me show you what was yours.
Speaker 1:Mine's my shoes too. Definitely Jordans, okay. Platform. Let me show you what was yours mine's, my shoes too. Definitely jordan's, okay. Um, and then, if it wasn't jordan's, it was like a game boy. I always wanted to make sure I got a game boy or game boy games okay, yeah, game boy, I think playstation, ps1, what were they called?
Speaker 2:What were um?
Speaker 1:Like the plaid shoes. Did you have them? Bubble-legged shoes?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was like pink. Oh, they were like this. They were oh these so stupid, my God, it's not loading. These were like what the Spice Girls used to use, I think, like baby Spice or Sporty Spice. It's loading. Basically, they were like these. These are the ones. Oh yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:I mean, but Converse does some platform chunky shoes now too, though.
Speaker 2:Soda Vintage 90s Chunky Platform yes, sodas For $150. Yes, that's what 90s chunky platform. Sodas for 150 dollars.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's, they call them sodas. They call them sodas, I remember yeah that's so uh-huh soda.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what it was, not um bubble gum, bubble gum, yeah, but yeah, those, I think that was like one of the, the dumbest things.
Speaker 1:Was those shoes? Yeah, so any other trends that you would like be interested that you would see coming back?
Speaker 2:Are you experiencing them back? I would like to see like the music channels come back and like the music videos and videos and like the scene of that, um, and I think like the natural bodies, because back then, like the girls were just like naturally and I look like I'm not against plastic surgery, you know, yeah, so I think that was cool, just, you know, because you see the impact it has on like the younger, younger, you know, generations, I think that and I think I think that's pretty much it, yeah, and I think just like the fun aspect of it, I feel like it was just more, it was funner like everyone, just like fucked with everyone and everyone, just like you know it was just about having fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like there was still bullying and stuff like that, but like you know, like it was just more, like everyone wanted a party and like survive. Yeah, you know what do you? What would you want to see? Come back.
Speaker 1:I think I do like the baggy jeans era that we're in. I do like that. I think they're doing them tastefully and they're not too crazy. I like that era. I wish you know, I wish we did more graphic t-shirts, like we used to do.
Speaker 2:I do like that.
Speaker 1:Or you know, just like just random graphic t-shirts. They don't have those anymore, like you remember. Hot topic. Hot topic oh yes number one place you can go to get some really cool graphic t-shirts. I had a lot of t-shirts from hot topic and zoomies used to be like my number one places to go and get like really good graphic t-shirts, but they're not. We're not doing that anymore. That whole era has somehow depleted and kind of died.
Speaker 2:Do you remember at Hot Topic the Psycho Bunny?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:The bunny with the quote Okay, so fast forward. You know, psycho Bunny is back. Have you seen their merch?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to. We used to hold them at I think Bloomingdale's still has them, but they have their own store and stuff now.
Speaker 2:My nephew likes that and it's crazy because we used to get those shirts like 25, 30 bucks. They're like $100, 80 bucks. It's not like it used to be. It's just like like the logo bunnies with psycho bunny on it, like back then it was like a stupid yellow rabbit with like a mean quote or something like that underneath, so that I mean that's kind of cool to see, but it's. It's really different than what you know we used to. We used to have like stickers of it and like pins remember, oh, pins on the backpacks, on the jansport backpacks. Um, you know what?
Speaker 1:else could you was a thing, and oh my god, I used to hate the colors, but or lrg was my, one of my also favorites of this oh that was a good one. I think they have been trying to come back and have been doing stuff and I oh my God I used to talk about all the time. Oh my God, I want to work for LRG one day, I want to be a designer for them and all of that which could still happen. But yeah, lrg, I used to love LRG.
Speaker 2:Did you ever have a baby vape? No, I got me a baby vape. The jackets, the vapes no.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't cute to me. Yeah, I think it was the monogram.
Speaker 2:All the pretty boys had, I think, like the ones with the. Remember the spiky hair and the big dives, yeah. But it was also for the face and they used to be like oh my god, they're so hot and they kind of the spiky fireball hair oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And the cut eyebrow oh yeah, that too and that's kind of what, because I think it was um at the time, pharrell overseeing babe, or that was his brand, or or still is his brand?
Speaker 2:I think no, he would rock it.
Speaker 1:And he would rock it all the time and he was all about being a skater boy, especially when he was in the Neptunes, which was another part of that era. Right, you know, Pharrell, the Neptunes.
Speaker 2:He was a skater boy. She said see you later, bye.
Speaker 1:All of that. So I guess, to wrap this up, when you talk about nostalgia, I think it's another direction to talk about is escapism, which, you know, the two of those kind of go hand in hand, because we are trying to escape some sort of reality. Right, nostalgia can be positive and it is a form of escapism, but it also offers us a lot of comfort. It also helps sometimes reduce loneliness, like you know, when we're listening to our music or we see things that, um, that make us think of the past, and that we feel some sort of comfort when doing that and connected, like.
Speaker 2:So it's like, yeah, like, because you're like, oh yeah, we used to do this. Oh, like, because you're like, oh yeah, we used to do this, oh yeah, we used to, you know, and you're like connected and you're like, oh, my God, like you feel like you weren't the only one Like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think there's some sort of, there is a part of idealism that comes from it. Like you know, talking about the past, reflecting on it, and you know, going back and thinking about what things used to be like for people makes people feel good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, I think, with some of the Y2K fashions that are coming back like I was talking about the baggy jeans, I do still see the low-rise jeans coming every so often.
Speaker 1:I got too much ass to wear low-rise jeans, so things kind of have to be up on my waist and up on this ass, yeah, otherwise I'll be around here looking crazy, yeah, and then like reboots of old television shows that are coming back, even like movies, and when people create playlists, all of those things create some sense of nostalgia and also bring people a sense of comfort in some way shape or form. But, yeah, I just thought it would be a good conversation to have. Yeah, um, you know, for where we're at, you know people, if you need somewhere to escape, nostalgia is the best place to go. Yeah, think about, think about the past, um, you know, and think about listen to some music that makes you feel good. You know, we've been talking a lot about protecting your peace. So I think this is a good conversation to escape, or you can listen to this episode and escape into this episode, because we talk a lot about nostalgia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and tell us, tell us your thoughts and like what you found nostalgic that maybe we forgot. I mean, there were shows too, you know, like hey Arnold, rocket Power, like so many different shows, music, everything trends, so let us know your thoughts too.
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Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So we pulled two cards. The two cards that we pulled was the Ten of Swords reversed and the Lover's Card. Stephanie got the Lover's Card, stephanie got the Lover's Card, which, yes, you have to find that I feel like this has been like an yeah, like it's a trend.
Speaker 2:I feel like maybe this is the year.
Speaker 1:This is the year this year, this is your year? Yeah, alright. So the Ten of Swords upside down or reversed this year, this is your year? Yeah, initially, all right. So the tennis words upside down or reverse the tennis words typically represents betrayal, pain or hitting rock bottom when it appears upright. So thank God, it ain't that.
Speaker 1:However, in the reverse position, this card often signals recovery or release from something that has been weighing heavily on you. It's as though the worst of the pain or difficulty is over and healing can begin. This might be a time when you're starting to bounce back from a difficult situation, feeling a shift from despair to hope. And so some themes that come from this card so recovery after painful period, moving on from the past, hurt or betrayal, looking, letting go of old wounds and allowing healing to take place, and new beginnings, or the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1:Um, I guess for me, thinking about that, it's just since I'm the one who pulled it. I guess I have been kind of in a space of just like letting shit go and moving on from things. I'm just. I'm just not interested in dwelling on past things anymore or holding on to anything that has, like, annoyed or hurt me or bothered me. I've been doing well with just letting it go, Mostly because I'm not interested in holding on to it or arguing about it or letting it bother me. I'm just trying to be in a different place.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's that. Yeah, that's really all I got to say about it, stephanie, with the L's card. So the lover's card is often associated with relationships, but its meaning extends beyond romantic partnerships to choices, alignment with values and deep connections. In the upright position, it suggests harmony, balance and mutual understanding. It's a positive card that speaks to love, unity and sometimes a critical decision that aligns with your higher self or greater good. It can also point to meaningful partnerships that support growth cooperation and alignment with your personal truth.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:Cooperation and alignment with your personal truth. Yes, so unity, partnerships or harmony a significant choice or decision with important consequences. Deep connection, trust and mutual respect. Alignment with personal values and truth. Any thoughts required?
Speaker 2:readers when do we get?
Speaker 2:No, I think. For me it's like, um, I feel like lately, like I don't have a lot of time for dating as much and it's been like while that it's been like that. So I feel like I'm dating with more intention and I'm making my boundaries clear, so, like, um, situationships are no longer like I'm not letting that really be an option and making it clear and verbalizing that and also really thinking about just like you know, I feel like at this age it's like do you want more kids? Do you not want more kids? Like, do you want marriage? Do you not want marriage? Like these are important things that you really need to think about for yourself, and also like if you're willing to sacrifice that or not. Or just like really deeper conversations and just standing on that and for yourself and for yeah, for yourself, and just I, um, I've been really doing that and only entertaining things with intention or like because I see that I would go somewhere, or if not just making it clear you know it's it's good today for fun, but honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think I'm kind of over that right now, in this, right now yeah, in priority yeah, like I just want to make sure it's gonna go somewhere, and that's where I'm at right now. I feel that like I don't say that on the first date, like I'm not like hey, so you know, yeah, yeah, no, like tastefully right, doing it tastefully, but just having it in your mind or like in your heart and just asking the question, the subtle questions, that kind of you can kind of pick up on that, you know so like just walking into it with intentions of what you want for me yeah that's fine.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think that's good. It's also a showing of growth. Um, you know, I think just I think I've mentioned this, but but I'm sure I have when me and Paris started dating, that's kind of what my. I came here and I thought I was going to be a hoe. But I knew also that once I got to that dating area, or whoever I was going to date, I knew I wanted to do it for a long-term relationship.
Speaker 2:For a future yeah.
Speaker 1:So together, these cards tell a story of recovery, personal growth and deepening connection, possibly within partnerships. Dana's reserve reversed 10 of Swords suggests that there's been a challenging, painful period that you are starting to move beyond, while Stephanie's upright lover's card indicates that love, unity and or an important decision is playing a role in this healing process. The combination of these cards suggests that, although you may have endured hardship or betrayal, the path forward lies, is embracing healing, trust and meaningful connections. It might also indicate a choice to step into more harmonious, aligned phase aligned phase in your life, potentially with someone else or as a result of inner healing. In essence, this spread seems to highlight that, despite the past struggles, there is a potential for growth, connection and positive change, especially if you are open to healing and making choices that align with your true selves great.
Speaker 2:I also want to say um, like it was.
Speaker 2:Mine resonated with me in the sense of like there's so much like chaos and and um, bullshit bullshit and um like diverse, not diversity, but um like like separation and like breaking things down and like one against the other, and to me that's what they want right. But in my head I'm like, well, this is when people should unite and really embrace each other and things like that. So I think for me, like with my friendships, like not just like dating and stuff right, like family friendships, like trying to be more like hey, how's your mental health? Like you know your peace doing, like just you know being warm, and like as much as I can, right, because I have to protect myself too. But I think just being there for like people that you know you genuinely love, or love you, is super important right now. So find you know, surround yourself with love. I think that helps a lot.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I think. And then also it kind of just goes back into what we talked about today Surround yourself with the people that will make you feel comfort and will make you, you know, kind of forget about the shit that's going on in the world. I guess grounding, peace, peace and grounding is always important, although you know we have to live into, in the realities that we're in. But also I think it's important to make sure that we are looking for something that gives us some sort of comfort with that when there's a whole bunch of chaos going on yeah, like fun comfort.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, being a good human, yes, be a good human.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not that deep it's, and it's also not that hard right um although some of you struggle with it. But get therapy?
Speaker 1:yeah, that too. Get some therapy, yeah, and I mean, speaking of which, so the thought yesterday I had a MLK program at my job. We brought these two doctors one's a psychologist and I think the other one's studying social health too but we just had a really good conversation and just, you know, talking about the collective, and you know what your role would be. You know, moving forward as we have all of these things going on, and what role you want to play. How do you want to help, in effect, affect change or put change into place? So you know, I think I do want to have her on one day to kind of have revisit that conversation and have that conversation, because I think we can have a more candid conversation here. But you know, I think that's something else to think about. Like, what role do you all want to play when it comes to all the different things that are going on in the world? How do you want to affect change? How do you want to make people start to feel a little bit better about something?
Speaker 2:100%. You don't want to look back with regret one day, so make sure you choose wisely. I also just want to briefly say you know for Latinos and you know other races right now going through, like the immigration scares and stuff, just educate your family members that might not know of their rights. Friends, friends, family, like just you know you have the right to request an attorney. You don't have to say anything unless you know you have an attorney present. You can immediately request and make sure that you know. If they are trying to come into your home or hospital, school, ask for documentation sign by a judge, make sure it's a judge's signature. You have rights here and make sure you utilize those. There's a lot of nonprofits you can look up, you know, on Google and in your area just to enter your zip code. Just education is so powerful right now. So I think just keep that in mind and do it. Educate people.
Speaker 1:And if you don't know what a warrant looks like, uh, there are examples, examples out there that you can have and probably print out and keep them in your home, honey, just in case, because you do. They cannot enter your home unless they do have a warrant that is signed by a judge, so that is important to know, um with that, that wraps up another episode of the Hella Cheese Made podcast. We hope that you all have a great rest of your week and weekends, and do you want to tell them where to find and follow us?
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