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Hella Chisme Podcast Episode 62

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Welcome back to another episode of the Hella Chisme Podcast.

This week we connect with Mike Brown, the solo host of "The Art of Letting Go." Mike shares his transition from a co-hosted podcast to a solo endeavor, highlighting the challenges and fears he conquered along the way. His story is about embracing vulnerability and authenticity to connect on a deeper level with his audience. We also get into a World Wide Chisme episode, talking about celebrity Halloween costumes, featuring the likes of Heidi Klum, Kiki Palmer, and Paris Hilton, while also touching upon the latest season of "Love Is Blind" and its mix of romance and reality TV drama.

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Speaker 1:

What's my favorite word, bitch? Why they gotta say it like short Bitch. You know they can't play on my court, can't hang with the big dogs. They on the porch. Lo-to-wist, lo-to-wist.

Speaker 2:

Lo-to-wist, lo-to-wist, ey, pero no hay boda, titi, me pregunto si tengo muchas novias. Muchas novias Hoy tengo, a una, mañana, a otra. Me la voy a llevar a toda. All right, welcome back to another episode of the Hello Chisme podcast. My name is Dana.

Speaker 3:

I'm Stephanie.

Speaker 2:

And we are your host. As you can obviously see, we have a third face today and we are going to be hanging out with Mike Brown today. Mike, do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself to the folk?

Speaker 1:

Yes, How's it going? Everybody, my name is Mike Brown. I am the host of the podcast the Art of Letting Go. I am a musician, an educator, audio storyteller. I do a little bit of everything, but today I'm podcasting.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, Welcome. Amir Jack of all trades yes, yes, welcome, and we are so excited to have you here. We got, we reached out to you, or I reached out to you on instagram, and that's how we got connected and we are very excited to be working with you. It is, I think we've. I've talked to stephanie and I have talked to you about how we've been recording for the last year and how long have you had the Art of Letting Go your show.

Speaker 1:

I've had it for seven years. I started like my first, I'd say like my first year I had a co-host and since then I've been doing it by myself. It's been a journey. It's been a journey and I feel like at every step, like anytime I've taken a break, it's kind of brought me into like a new era of the podcast. I'm kind of on a break right now. I've been on a break most of this year like this. This is the first time I've kind of like slowed down and just trying to figure out the business parts of podcasting, like really understanding like there are resources out here and I'm trying to find those resources 100%.

Speaker 2:

I feel that. Do you so over the when you had your co-host and now transitioning into doing it by yourself? What has been like some of the challenges for you?

Speaker 1:

So initially my my challenge was really just fear. Initially my challenge was really just fear. I think podcasting was just something I was always passionate about and my co-host was kind of just and not kind of. He was my friend who was just doing it with me because he wanted to encourage me. And as I got more and more into it I got more serious and, yeah, when he stepped away I was in fear of, like is this going to work by myself? Like do people want to just sit up and listen to me talk alone?

Speaker 1:

And actually I think it drew more people to the show. Like a lot of people told me they really appreciated just the vulnerability that I had by myself and like the guests that I was bringing in. And I think the biggest challenge was just editing, like literally doing everything by myself, like it's, it's, it's more than just turning on the microphone when you want to grow. So like having to do the social media, having to go out into the world and actually like network with people and just taking on every step. But at the same time I can be honest and say I wouldn't change any of it because I wouldn't have developed as just a person if I didn't have that journey alone 100%.

Speaker 2:

I feel that, yeah, it's. You know, when me and Stephanie started doing the show, I, I had just gotten laid off and so, and Stephanie, I think you were just starting at the County or so, right, like you were just starting your new role, and so so I was in a space to where I had no idea what the fuck was going to happen. I was like I don't know what I'm about to do. I'm about to be in this house. I thought I didn't. I now knowing what I know, I did not know I was going to be laid off for nearly almost a year and at home, you know, doing a lot of podcasting and a lot of consulting, but I had no clue that's what I was going to end up doing. But really, stephanie just messaged me one day and was like, do you want to do a podcast together? And I was like sure, you know, I have been wanting to do one for about three years or so.

Speaker 2:

Before I moved here from the Bay Area, one of my other good friends in the Bay, her and I had talked a while about doing a show, a while before it's about doing a show. And you know, I think we had the same fears and, you know, wanting to getting online, putting ourselves out there like that on social media. At the time, most podcasts that were starting, which was the Read, which shout out to the Read, is one of my favorite shows they were mostly just audio and then now you have, you have visuals, you have, you know, people want to see and they want to experience what you're doing on the show and how you know you're interacting and the reactions to everything. So it's from then to now, it's a lot more on it and it's, you know, I 100% hear you.

Speaker 1:

You when I said, when you say that it's challenging, like it's something else and something I learned is that, like kind of pulling the curtain back, nobody's really doing this alone. I had did a residency with spotify and I showed up and they were like where's your team? And I'm like it just me. And then there was another podcast that was there and they had like four or five people that were supporting and like recording and this and that, and it's like, oh, the people that are like doing this at a higher level are actually like they have other pieces in place to let the host focus on hosting and then other people focus on the other things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's what we're trying to do here. So welcome.

Speaker 3:

I do relate though, like in the sense of you saying that you know, being transparent and vulnerable with podcasting or during episodes, it does draw in a lot of people, or during episodes, it does draw in a lot of people because at the same time as, I believe, around the same time that we were starting and like brainstorming and stuff, I was also like starting the journey of like co-parenting and and then you know the job and then. So I feel like Dana and I were we're both, like you know, being there for each other in different ways and stuff. So I feel like just putting that on a public platform was it was a good outlet for both of us as well, I think. And just keep our mind, you know, productive and in a creative space.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you'd be so surprised, like how many people are experiencing the same things that you're experiencing. Like there's been times where I've just had conversations with myself of like I'm feeling burnt out and people be like thank you so much for sharing that. I've been feeling it, but I didn't know how to communicate it and it's like, yeah, we all are going through the same thing. So I think I think podcasting is just a a beautiful thing, like for people to just build community, find community. Like I really felt, like I was kind of like putting out the bat signal of like hey, who else is feeling what I'm feeling? Cause this, this is not normal. And then people are like, oh yeah, it is, I feel this too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it is powerful. So, mike, how we do it here usually in the opening of the show, is Stephanie and I do a check-in. So, as we shared, Stephanie and I both came from vacation not too long ago and you know we was out there in the streets, okay, catching flights, catching flights and not feelings. We was out here just doing our big one and and now we are back in gloomy ass san diego, which I'm fine with, because I was pretty certain we was gonna catch a blaze about here how hot it was, and thankfully it has finally cooled down. So where you been, stephanie girl, because you've been in Miami, what's that?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so not this past weekend, but the one before. Middle of October I was in La Paz, mexico, and I have always wanted to go to La Paz. The beaches are very protected and certain parts of the ocean are very protected, so the water is a lot more virgin what they would say. So, you know, not a lot of trash or, like you know, people, you know, just not taking care of the ocean, like you can't take shells or anything like that from those beaches, and it was so relaxing, relaxing it's like a beach town, really good food, seafood, and it was. It was very relaxing, I would say. I saw some dolphins, sea lions, I did get stung by a jellyfish and then I think, because they they mentioned that because of the hurricanes happening, like in florida and other places, like you know, it kind of pushes certain animals, like, like creatures, animals, different places because they like colder climates.

Speaker 3:

They like the water to be warmer oh, they like a warmer jellyfish, like warmer water so they're, they're towards like the the sand, like the shallower parts because it's warmer, so and the water was not that deep like in the in the area where I got stung, so obviously the water was warmer, yeah, and then I came back and my family 15 of my family members were going to Loretto, mexico, for my aunt's 60th birthday, which I wasn't planning on going, but one of my family members wasn't able to make the flight and had two tickets. So the opportunity presented itself to take a trip with my son and I took it and it was amazing. I would definitely go back. I just wouldn't stay at that hotel. It was a golf resort and it was beautiful.

Speaker 3:

It's just, you know, certain things with the service and stuff was not what I would have expected, but the beaches were beautiful. There's a lot of stingrays there, my nephew saw an eel, there's a lot of coral and stuff like that. So it was, you know, dirt biking and desert beach activities. So it was good to disconnect for almost two weeks. I was there five days in La Paz, came back for two and then left again. So this year has been very busy and just a lot of ups and downs, so I feel like it was good to just relax for two weeks and have that connection with my son as well, so it was nice.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, how was your vacation?

Speaker 2:

Honolulu. So I went to Hawaii Honolulu for the first time. It was nice. It was my little brother's 30th birthday, so we got to celebrate that and it just so happened that same weekend it was Honolulu Pride, so I got to experience pride in another area other than San Francisco or San Diego, and so it was nice. I think that we it was, it was very hot and it I did. I liked it there. I did. I wished it was more islandy. It was way too much. It was way too city for me, because I an island experience or more of a tropical experience and more of, like you know, just the island vibe, because that's really what I wanted. But however, it was nice. We had a good time Now for it to have been pride. I was surprised it's not a lot of attractive men there.

Speaker 3:

Really no, got it.

Speaker 2:

No, it was not. You know how, when you go to like New York City Pride, Brooklyn Pride, LA, Atlanta, San Diego, you know the homosexuals are out and it was not given that in Honolulu and I was like, I'm like, where the island boys at. Where they at. I'm like I'm, it's fine, I'm here with my husband, that's great, but I just want to see, like you know, I'm not dead Like where they at Like come on. It was very surprising.

Speaker 3:

I was very taken aback, so just saying Did they do like a parade and everything as well?

Speaker 2:

They did.

Speaker 2:

They did do a parade. So the hotel we stayed at was the Prince Waikiki. It was literally right on the main drag where the parade and everything was on the harbor and, yeah, they had over where our hotel was, was like their little staging area and they all just marched all the way down but it wasn't a lot of people in the parade but they did block off the streets and you know, it was like it was a whole thing and it was nice. It was really, really cool. We got to experience going out and the clubs that are.

Speaker 2:

The bar that we went to was very, very busy and we went to one of the clubs there, not for me, not for my age group, but you know it was. It was, it was good. Like I think it was just the realization that you know, when you go to different places, you get different experiences at different bars and stuff like that. And the club that we went to was definitely for the younger kids, like 19, 21, 23. And I was like I was like, oh my God, all of these kids are young, like all of them.

Speaker 2:

It was wild. They was even outside like begging for our wristbands. They were like, oh, I turn 21 in a couple of days. Can I, you know, have your wristband? And I was like child yeah, sure you know it. Just it was fun, we had a great time. Anywhere we go, we turn it out. But I did want more of an island vibe. So I think we're going to try and go to like Maui or Kauai the next time. I also feel like it's a much more, it's a little more cost effective on the other islands, because you know honolulu was expensive and you know I'm not the one to cry about a bag, but I'm just like girl, I just would have liked a little bit more bang for my buck um honolulu feels like a big resort, like the whole island feels like a resort?

Speaker 1:

yes, have you so? You've been. Yeah, I went with my family a couple of years ago and the bar I went to it was on the second floor, I don't remember what it was called.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you're talking about. Oh my God, that's the one we went to. Oh my God, what was that bar called?

Speaker 1:

I can't remember it either, but it, but it had. They had like $10, like Mai Tai pictures, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, and they give you a straw and they put it in there. People were ordering like they were ordering in those things. Oh wow, and I was like Lord Jesus, somebody come help these kids, because you know an adios will tear you up.

Speaker 1:

Was it Hula's?

Speaker 2:

maybe Hula's yeah, yeah, yes, and it's inside, inside, like I guess it's a hotel kind of yeah it's inside of a.

Speaker 2:

Technically it's inside of a hotel, so it's on the second floor and there's rooms around where the entrance is. And I remember thinking on the day of pride like there's no way they're renting these rooms out for people, because they would at least have to either give them a really low price on it or the people would be complaining all night, like because this bar didn't close until 2 am. So, yes, hula's is the. That was the place we were at most of the time, and then we went to strikers or strikes or something like that. That's the club that we went to. That was a little further out, but every restaurant we went to was really good. It was right on the beach and it was gorgeous. And you know, I would definitely, if you've never been, I would say eight out of ten, highly recommend. It was good.

Speaker 3:

How have you? Well, what have you been up to? Have you taken any trips or anything like that?

Speaker 1:

I went to New Orleans for my birthday. I went to college out there but I hadn't been since. I probably hadn't been in like the last eight years. So yeah, I went for my birthday. It was a good time, it was a really good time and I was coming off of taking a break from drinking for a month. So to go from not drinking for a month to going to New Orleans, it was like okay, I could probably go back, I could probably go back on break.

Speaker 3:

Did you eat some beignets?

Speaker 1:

I did. I had beignets, gumbo Like I did it up. I went everywhere.

Speaker 3:

You went from detox to just going all out. Huh.

Speaker 1:

Detox to intoxicated.

Speaker 2:

I just taking a. I was on a cleanse a month before we went to Hawaii as well and yeah, you did it up. Yeah, were you drinking tequila.

Speaker 3:

Do you, do you like tequila?

Speaker 2:

as well. And yeah, you did it up, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Were you drinking tequila? Do you like tequila as well, Mike?

Speaker 1:

I do. That's like the main thing I drink. Tequila rum is probably second, but tequila is the one.

Speaker 2:

I drink Hennessy the whole time.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I did.

Speaker 3:

You were drinking like a baby.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I drink Hennessy the whole time. It just I didn't want any tequila, I just and usually I will drink it, especially if I'm on vacation. But I wanted a different vibe. I was very chill. I didn't have a hangover, well, I didn't know. I didn't really get hungover at all the whole time. So that was nice and so, no, I just drank Hennessy the whole time and, like the last day, I drank champagne and wine, and you know, that's usually when I'm just like I'm just going to relax today gonna relax today.

Speaker 3:

You know, what I was surprised of in La Paz was, I feel like there's like a, there's a very present gazing there like I saw a lot of men like I don't know if they were like trans or like dressed, you know, in drag or women or I don't know, but you I could just I know my gays.

Speaker 3:

So my waiter, of course, was gay and right away, you know, he just was like because when you have like blonde hair, colored eyes and you go to Mexico, it's like, oh my God, they love it, they eat that shit up. So I had a really good time with my server in one of the beaches and but yeah, I was going to tell you that too. I was like, oh my God, I want to tell Dana, I feel like you and Paris would like it there because it's like a beach town and it's chill and everything. But I do feel like, if you look into like gay bars and like stuff there, that I'm pretty sure they would be present. It is a smaller town, not like Puerto Vallarta, but I feel like, if you wanted to, you could definitely.

Speaker 2:

We would be down. We've been trying to figure out where we're going to go for New Year's Eve and La Paz is like it's a two hour flight or something like that, right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's. Yeah, it is a two hour flight. It's driving to Cabo from there is like two hours, so so it's not. It's not very far from there. It's just a lot more like laid back than than Cabo. But I will say, having gone to both, the beaches are way nicer in La Paz and I just it's a nice vibe, it's very relaxing.

Speaker 2:

Now, mike, I have a question about New Orleans, because I've been wanting to go to New Orleans for a minute and me and my husband have talked about it. I wanted to go to Southern Decadence, which is technically their pride, right?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I've never been, but yes, I've definitely heard about it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I've never been, but yes, I've definitely heard about it. Yes, I want to go, and then I also. I've also been interested in going to the red. It's the red dress race, or Okay?

Speaker 1:

yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I've been. I always see it online and I'm like I would love to go, but what is that? Have not gone the red dress race. I think it's a charity event, if I'm correct Red.

Speaker 2:

Dress Race. I think it's a charity event, if I'm correct, and essentially all of everybody who's there dress in a bunch of red dresses and they race, for I think it's women for domestic violence. Is that correct? I think so, yeah, and they donate. They get the money that is made from it goes to charity, and they do it every year. They get the the money that is made from it goes to charity, and they do it every year.

Speaker 2:

southern decadence is essentially their pride and it's all on bourbon street like mardi gras and girl, it goes up and I'm just like I would love to go one day.

Speaker 1:

But you know new orleans is a great time. I could. I could tell you any time of year you go, it's one of those places where it's always something going on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my aunt goes. She goes consistently. She loves New Orleans, love New York City, and so whenever she can get there, she goes often All right, well, transitioning gears. So we're back y'all. So welcome back to another episode. I know we've been gone and last week was a reprise episode Hope y'all enjoyed, and we are now moving into our a worldwide cheesemade episode.

Speaker 2:

I know it's been a minute, but we're gonna get into some things and mike is gonna hang out with us for this episode, so we're gonna get to hear some different perspectives other than me and stephanie. And y'all be nice, because me and stephanie still gonna be. But while we, before we get into all of those things, we're going to take a quick break and then we will come back and we will get into what we're going to talk about today. Hey y'all, I just want to let you know that we have a Patreon channel. That's right. If you did not know, we are on Patreon. If you did not know, we are on Patreon. Our Patreon is $8.99 a month where you can come and watch all of our visual elements to our podcast show. So all you have to do is click the link in our description box and it will take you right there. It's only $8.99 a month. Make sure you go and subscribe Bye.

Speaker 2:

So, as we mentioned, this week we are going to do a worldwide Cheesemade episode and we're going to jump into a bunch of different topics. So, since Halloween just passed, I thought it would be great to kind of recap some of our favorite Halloween costumes. A lot of the celebs were out there on these streets dressing up and doing their big ones with their costumes. A lot of the celebs were out there on these streets dressing up and doing their big ones with their costumes. I also saw a lot of celebrities doing a lot of like I don't know if I would say promo videos, but videos in their costumes, like like Ciara did one, cynthia Bailey did one with like a few of like her friends, somebody else did one, but I can't think of who. But yeah, people were like dressing it, they did their like costume and then they did like little videos with them. But who was some of y'all's favorites that y'all liked?

Speaker 3:

so I, heidi coombe is like known right for her costumes and she did et this year her and her husband and it was pretty cool. She definitely goes all out like on her costumes, so that was pretty cool. Kiki palmers was cute with her baby.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. What is she just about?

Speaker 3:

Kirstie Lannister oh, cersei. Cersei Lannister. Cersei Lannister from Game of Thrones uh, huh love that and her son has like a little crown and everything.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I love that. I hope he's not supposed to be Joffrey cause Joffrey was and Paris Hilton was Mia Wallace from Pulp Fiction.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I'm not a big like Paris Hilton, like a fan like that, but her costume looked pretty cool yes, yes, kiki also did Nilly Vanilli the 90s group.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, but is who's the friend in the blue context? Is that her friend?

Speaker 3:

anyway, it don't matter, go ahead yeah, I don't know, I they were. I mean, they have access to a lot of money, so all their costumes are pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

I get that.

Speaker 1:

It's funny you mentioned Paris because I saw Paris did. Britney Spears also and I know Lizzo had like three costumes. I know she did like the South Park costume, the ways off. Yeah, and it made me wonder like is there such thing as like too many costumes for Halloween?

Speaker 2:

I mean, but I feel like it goes exactly what Stephanie is saying, right, like when you have access to money, you have access to funds. You know, is there a line to all these costumes? Or are they going to different costume parties that they have to make all these appearances at? Because, I mean, lizzo did do, she did the face card, she did edward scissors hands and she's also I can't put my finger on what this costume is in the red and blue.

Speaker 3:

It's like a weight loss drug, right that she's like it's a South Park reference and it's like because she's lost weight.

Speaker 2:

Well, yes, the, the Olympic one. I get that one, but there's one I think she is oh, it's 1-800-HONEYBUNNY. I feel like that is a Super Mario reference.

Speaker 2:

I have never heard of that. I think you could be completely wrong, because I feel like in Mario wasn't there, there was a character, but it was a hat, or it was the little, the little ducks with the with the wings on their hats. I could be all over the place, anyway, I do you know. The question does remain is it too many costumes? I did like the face card one, though I thought that one was good.

Speaker 2:

I was like that's creative, that's cool, and I do do. Like Heidi Klum, I saw a lot of ETs more than I've ever seen that people did this year for forecasts for Halloween.

Speaker 3:

Doja Cat's is pretty cool, the sunflower.

Speaker 2:

Was she a sunflower?

Speaker 3:

She also, I think, had multiple but the sunflower with the bees.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

That was pretty cute.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like Doja always does well with like, being creative with her outfits and her looks and, like you know, she's always really good with just showing her personality. In that way, I I think it's her. It's kind of who, who she is, and even her persona, even, like you know, as a celebrity, but it does look really good. It's very well done. Hers is from. It looks like a video game yeah I can't tell, I couldn't tell which one it was, either it looks like tails here or like, I can't tell.

Speaker 2:

Anyway I'm not gonna make it up, but she does look good, though who else we got?

Speaker 3:

I was seeing there's like I can't. I can't see like which celebrity it was, though. It's like a SpongeBob, a Squidward and like a Patrick Star, but I can't figure out who it is. I know it's a celebrity, but I think it's like maybe somebody that's like new.

Speaker 2:

Are you talking about, like the the, the one with the star on the nose? Yeah, and she even has the gary purse I know blame it on quay was one of the characters from from spongebob, but he was the the old aquaman and squid boy characters, him and another social media comedian they dressed up as like a, a duel okay um, there was a drag queen that did sponge by violet chachki. Oh, maybe that's probably who it is. And is it violet?

Speaker 3:

oh, that's probably who it is with. Did she have like a sparkly bag and like everything was all sparkly? Yeah, oh then, yeah, that's who it is okay um kelly clarkson, as beetlejuice is killing me.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't even look like herself. No, I mean it here, I'm just gonna share it because I have it on my screen. It doesn't even look like her oh my god right, isn't that crazy? Yeah I feel like it's everything. For me it's like the stance, the face, the makeup, like the nails. They did a really good job.

Speaker 1:

Whoever like her makeup artist that did it did a phenomenal job on her makeup I feel like beyonce went kind of basic this year, you think so, in comparison to some of her other years I, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think she, I don't think she did as many. I do agree that she didn't do as many, but I do. I like her vanity and prince one that she did. I do like it. I don't think she did as many as she usually would do, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:

I kind of wanted to go back to the ET because I know you mentioned a couple of people doing it. I saw Janelle Monáe did it as well, yes, but I was curious like who do you think did it better?

Speaker 2:

Between Heidi and Janelle Monáe.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, between heidi and janelle monaise.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, janelle monaise is pretty cool because it's like the whole body and the little finger lights up and everything okay, so unrelated and it doesn't necessarily matter based on the question that was asked, but are they like shrunk down in this whole, like little body suit, or is the body suit like covering them?

Speaker 1:

I think the body suit is covering them. I think that's their natural height, interesting yeah and that looks short, though, and her that's what I so and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I'm like I don't remember janelle being that short maybe she's on her knees like just for the photo shoot I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I I think they're like super short. I saw I saw janelle monet once when I was living in la and they were like, yeah, oh okay, wow, that's interesting.

Speaker 3:

She has some cool costumes.

Speaker 2:

Does Janelle go by? They them pronouns.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I think so. I was just asking. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2:

Yes, janelle, I would say Heidi Klum did it better than janelle my name, I mean, I think, also mostly because I'm just like I think heidi klum went all out with the wig, like she looks like, you know, with the wig and the makeup. Oh, but now that I'm looking at this I can see their faces and the neck area, part yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's creepy.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, so it is their actual height. Yeah, that's weird, but it looks good.

Speaker 3:

It is creepy. Can you imagine in person?

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God, oh, and now I see, okay, the SpongeBob, and I think this might be Shea Coulee. No, is that who the Squidward is?

Speaker 1:

I almost feel like I saw it was Milk. Are you a huge Drag Race fan? My partner watches Drag Race, so I keep up a little bit. Yeah, Violet Chachki and.

Speaker 2:

Gottmik oh, I love me some gotmik. That's gotmik, then, and gotmik is spongebob now I can see it. And then, yes, okay, that all makes sense, gotmik is tiny, I love gotmik. And then we have victoria, monet and Hazel dressed up as Kia and Matsi. I've never seen the hero show that they're talking about or that they're dressed up from, but I just thought they looked really cute. And then Megan Thee Stallion is, of course, she's Starfire, which is a comic book anime hero. She looks amazing, of course, but I'm always biased. Megan Thee Stallion, the bitch, never misses, for me.

Speaker 3:

Do you guys like to dress up for Halloween?

Speaker 2:

I do.

Speaker 1:

I haven't done it in a little while, but I do enjoy dressing up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, did you dress up this year?

Speaker 1:

No, I wore a Dennis Rodman shirt and just told everybody I was Dennis Rodman and somebody actually called me Scotty Pippen. I was like he's on my shirt, Like this is who I am.

Speaker 3:

Gosh, Scotty Pippen.

Speaker 2:

Is that who you were, dennis Rodman, this year? Yeah, it's funny, josh Levyvy. He dressed up as dennis robin too, which is pretty. It doesn't surprise me, because it's kind of his aesthetic, like you know how he dresses in general. But dennis robin, I love dennis robin. There's supposed to be a movie coming out about dennis robin.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if they're still doing it or not, yeah, yes, about his life. And then lupita and niyongle did storm and then, like I mentioned earlier, cynthia bailey did storm and actually they had like a whole little, a little situation where she did like her friends, somebody was storm, somebody was wolverine. Somebody was Storm, somebody was Wolverine, somebody was, I think, thor, like they did like a whole Marvel cinematic, a universe themed costume situation, and it was really really good. I thought it was really cool. So who did anybody have any like favorites out of all of these?

Speaker 3:

Not really Like nothing that I'm like oh my God, that is so cool. Favorites out of all of these not really like nothing that I'm like oh my god, that is so cool honestly, I would say probably Kelly Clarkson.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking Janelle Monae until I saw the Heidi Klum and I almost felt like Heidi Klum was a little better, to be honest. But yeah, maybe, maybe Kelly Clarkson yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 3:

The details in her hands and her nails and the teeth and everything that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

That's really cool yeah, I can, I can vibe with kelly clarkson. I mean it was, it's really good, it's really really well done and I feel like you can. It's like she had a complete makeover. I like that. I'm fine with Kelly Clarkson being a favorite. I also. I really do like. I do like Doja Cats, just because I think it's like really cool, it's really pretty and it looks really really good. Well done. So yeah, oh, I forgot to mention Ciara was naomi campbell and she was all the members of toc. I thought that was cool too, um, but yeah, to mention the one I sent you like.

Speaker 3:

What's the artist's name? Tisha campbell. Oh, she was tyra banks did you guys see that really I don't know if you can see it, but I did, I saw it wow, it's the shade for me it was pretty epic.

Speaker 2:

If you ask me that's hilarious, well, the shade will live on and call it a day.

Speaker 2:

I mean, all right, well, happy Halloween. Hopefully everyone was safe and had a good time. I did dress up, I did my makeup, Me, and I was a scarecrow. That's cute. I do like to dress up, but I like I. The problem for me has been over the last couple of years. Is that Just time? Over the last couple years? Is that just time? I did my makeup and I just because I managed and planned all the halloween stuff at work and I was just tired.

Speaker 3:

so yeah, that's it was great I was if you follow me on instagram you can see but my kids and I. I was Jack and my son was Oogie Boogie and my daughter was Sally.

Speaker 1:

That's cool.

Speaker 3:

It was cute. I like to do my makeup for Halloween.

Speaker 2:

It's just easier, and the costumes are crazy, ridiculously expensive these days. Yes, they did not used to cost that much. Again, I don't. I'm not the one to complain about a bag, but Jesus, like it's just, it's crazy. Just to realize I could go. I used to be able to go pay like $40 or less for a costume. Now we're paying double that, if not more than that, and then all the accessories you got to buy separately, which pretty much you always have had to do.

Speaker 3:

But it's just crazy yeah, each of my kids costumes is like 60 bucks, jeez that's ridiculous, yeah for one day, yeah.

Speaker 2:

All right. Well, moving on to next topics. So we had the World Series happen, right, and I guess, who did they play? Stephanie, who played who?

Speaker 3:

The Dodgers versus the Yankees.

Speaker 2:

The Dodgers versus the Newkees, the dodgers versus the new york yankees. Huh, I'm pretty sure I now that I understand, like it was pretty much the east coast versus the west coast. I'm pretty sure that I mean I know it was lit yeah, la was.

Speaker 3:

Yankees won one of them and so they ended up playing the that last game in new york. And I don't know if you saw, but ashanti I mean, yeah, ashanti performed. She was there with um nelly and it was cute because she's like a yankees fan and he's like a dodgers fan and um why is nelly a dodgers? Fan, he's probably from la. Oh no, he's from, uh, the country fucking st louis yeah, but maybe because he lives in la now. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think it's good on my nerves.

Speaker 3:

Fat Joe is there Ice Cube? I think Ice Cube performed and you know he's West Coast. And yeah, so it was like a whole thing, like you said, east Coast versus West Coast, and I am happy that the west coast won, but I am not a dodgers fan because the padres and dodgers are like rivals, so you know. But yeah, so the final score was, uh, seven to six, so they won by one on the fourth game wow so it's four out of seven.

Speaker 3:

So they won the four and they went in new york and then they came back down and then they did like the whole parade and everything I saw that oh, la was lit for sure there's a video I didn't like was that they were like tagging the like a UPS van or truck or whatever, and then like setting off fireworks.

Speaker 3:

And there's like this video of a guy setting off a firework and I don't know if he was drunk or not, but it shows him like it exploded, I think before it was supposed to, and his freaking fingers blew off.

Speaker 2:

When you're out here playing child games, you get reactions. You know you don't believe family is greasy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You lose fingers.

Speaker 3:

But the Dodger players with their shirts off and their tattoos.

Speaker 2:

I know that's where I'm headed, you know, because that's what I want to talk about. Yeah, yeah, the one with the tattoos from his chest, what's his name?

Speaker 3:

I think Anthony Banda, I know his last name is Banda yeah. He know how to dance Banda too I mean mean, I'm sure he does, I'm sure he'll figure it out, we'll make it work the one with the el chino what about otani? What are your thoughts on Otani?

Speaker 2:

Let me see which one is that one.

Speaker 3:

He's, like the like, a famous one. He's Japanese.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he's Japanese, this guy with the dog in his hand.

Speaker 3:

Otani yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I mean.

Speaker 3:

He's very he's like the one of the popular players right now.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure. I'm pretty sure all of them are popular now. They just won the world fucking series. They are about to be popping for the next 10 years or so. That's what happens. I mean congratulations to them. I'm glad they won. I remember when the giants won the world, it was a whole thing in San Francisco and in the Bay, even you know, switching over to basketball when the Warriors won the championship for, like, I think it was like three years in a row or something like that. And then you know it's. I think it's great when your city has that type of highlight, especially when mostly one of the biggest things that brings people together is sports. So that's fantastic. Congratulations to the Dodgers.

Speaker 1:

Yes. How are people responding in San Diego to the win?

Speaker 3:

Pissed.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure they're better.

Speaker 3:

We've had better days.

Speaker 2:

So because, because the padres were on their way, they were doing pretty well, weren't they?

Speaker 3:

everybody was predicting that the padres would ultimately win, like show, the, the sports commentators, like a lot of people, were predicting, because the Padres did have a very good team this year. So that loss against the, the Dodgers, just they dodgers. So everyone's pissed to see the dodgers who win. But you know, and I guess they were hoping that they would represent the west coast in a better light versus like trashing shit, because when the padres were winning, everyone would go celebrate in a national city which is I don't know if you're familiar with san diego or not, but it's like a city in a hispanic area in san diego. So that's where a lot of car clubs cruise, it's like down a main road there, so everyone would pull out the low riders and you know, go cruising and just celebrate. So I guess they were just hoping it would be kind of classy like that. But you know, yeah, but yeah, everyone's kind of upset, but it is what it is. There's always next year, I guess right that part.

Speaker 2:

Well, moving on, we're going to talk a little bit about Love is Blind. The last we talked we I was talking, we talked through you know the couples that made it out of the pods and you know some of the people that I thought was going to get married. And here we are it's the end. So if you have not watched spoiler alert, we're going to get into a little bit of it. And yeah, just right off the bat, you know, I have to say I was almost to the point to where I was talking, where I was in a space, to say that this season was probably one of my favorite seasons since the beginning of Love is Blind, since, like season one, however highly disappointed, but you know, mostly because I just feel like we're now in, love is Blind has moved in a space to where I feel like they're more focused on the drama of the show and like I guess I don't, I guess like the publicity of the show and like I guess I don't, I guess like the publicity of the show, you know, we're seven years, seven seasons in and I just I was expecting a little bit more out of what they gave me this season and I feel like they were. They're trying to do more with making characters of these people instead of actually focus on creating the relationships and an actual in actual marriages for some of these people. And then also, I feel like you know, I do know that sometimes the ones that they do, they choose who they want to highlight, the stories they want to highlight, that they choose who they want to highlight, the stories they want to highlight, even though I know some of them do make it through the process, but they don't always highlight those stories right, and so it's kind of frustrating to me. But that's also because I'm a hopeless romantic love, a good rom-com and all the things. So, you know, here I Am. This show show is I'm hoping for them to, you know, show a little bit more love, and they're not doing that. And it's really starting to irk me. With all that being said, two couples ended up married, so it was Ashley and Tyler, and then Garrett and Taylor were the only two couples that ended up married, which rightfully so, actually, because I do believe Garrett and Taylor actually really like each other and are really in love. Ashley and Tyler, after the reunion, I do believe they are in love as well, and I do think the both of both of them are going to. You know they're going to be in it for the long haul.

Speaker 2:

If you did not know, tyler is the one who had kids where he was on the show and him and Ashley would talk about having kids together, building a family, all the things, and then, one of the episodes, by the time they made it out of the pods, they had this conversation about how he had kids with another couple. However, we learned at the reunion that they had already talked about it. So what we saw on camera was just them bringing it to camera and rehashing the conversation, but they had already talked about it. Ashley had already knew and essentially she was just like we have to talk about this, like we have to make sure that we're transparent and people know and that we're being clear about. You know where we stand on this issue.

Speaker 2:

So by the time it got to all of us on social media, she obviously had already known, and I do respect the fact that she was like you know, shame on y'all to think that I would be so dumb or I would be in the dark about something, about a man that I'm talking about marrying, and you know, social media was all calling her stupid and everything. And I just feel like you know that's right. Stand by your man, because that's what you should do, girl, because you are married now at this point, like you know, you have no choice. But also I feel like I'll go ahead.

Speaker 3:

He's the one. That's just to be clear, because we talked about it in that other episode, the sperm donor story. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

He's allegedly the sperm donor for a couple, and the same way that he told the story on camera is the same way that he told it at the reunion that he essentially had a kid with a couple, who then the other person in the relationship ended up leaving the wife high and dry and now left this one person with the, with the child that they had. He had helped them have so and then that was that.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, but I think that the mom of the children started speaking out right allegedly yes okay yes, she did allegedly start saying some things and speaking out and making it sound like that they were in a relationship, howsoever, they are not. They were yeah, they were not yeah. So other than that, I just feel like, I think it's like she told.

Speaker 3:

She told Ashley told Tyler right that it was like he didn't owe anyone an explanation.

Speaker 2:

No, he didn't.

Speaker 3:

So I feel like that's valid, I guess because you know you are on a public platform, so you know you're also human, so you have these conversations, like you said, off camera versus on camera, like you can clarify to a certain point in front of camera, but also you want to protect a certain amount of privacy and vulnerability with your partner off camera.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do you watch? Love is Blind, mike. No no, I have not watched it yet do you have you watched any of the other seasons?

Speaker 1:

no, I haven't the show that I, because this is on netflix, right? Yes, I've been watching the circle. That's kind of the one I've been keeping up with yes, yes, I've been.

Speaker 2:

I've been wanting to get into the circle this. There's another one, what's it called? It's another dating show on there that I do like. I do want to go back and watch love island, though. Love island america this year was supposed to be really good, but it's like 32 episodes, oh wow. And I'm like, oh, that's a commitment. I'm like, oh, 32 episodes, but yeah, but yeah, I love it. Splendid is good.

Speaker 2:

Season one has always been my favorite season one, and there was one more season. I can't think of it right now. That was really good that it had a lot of couples get married. I want to tell you it was like four, three or four. That was also really good. But yeah, you know, I hope they do better. I hope season.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure season eight is already done, so hopefully it's better. But to me, with them already, the way they're already promoting it makes me feel otherwise, because I feel like this one came around really fast Usually they release them for Valentine's Day and this one came a little later in the year but also because last year they had a huge lawsuit against them for sexual harassment on one of the people that was a part of the show. So I feel like they were trying to, like, you know, like let's rev this up. I also, you know, I don't really have any thoughts on Nick Lachey and and his wife hosting the show Melissa, but I just wish. I don't really have any thoughts on Nick Lachey and his wife hosting the show Melissa, but I just wish, I wish they would do like a different host. Maybe, you know, mix it up a little bit, give them a vacation, you know.

Speaker 2:

Just a thought, a love that I just feel like every time we're talking about, like this last reunion, nick was there with his dad jokes and just his ridiculous puns and you know Melissa's worried about the babies of the show and still talking about you know the pod babies, and I'm just like can we just let this go? Like these people just got married Most of these people are just in their 20s Like I'm pretty sure they don't want to have no kids right now. I'm pretty sure they don't want to have no kids right now. I'm pretty sure they're worried about traveling and how often they can get in the bed with each other. I'm pretty sure that's all we're worried about at this point, especially in our first year of marriage. Anyway, well, if nothing else on Love is Blind, we'll take a break and then we'll come back and get into the next few topics.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

All right, we are back. So San Diego, even though we are, we're cooling down, had a nice big fire the other day. We had two actually. That happened kind of near our 125 road which, if you live in San Diego, kind of takes you to where I live, which is southeast, so like Spring Valley, La Mesa, like the backside of El Cajon, and through like National City and all that shit for the highway, and I guess it was like a fire kind of over in this Spring Valley area, in like their little brush area, and then I think like a house or something was on fire too. There was also another one over near the La Mesa area which was directly in like a bunch of like you know, like on the side of the freeway or in the middle of like the residential area. It was like little trees and everything was on fire, brush fire.

Speaker 2:

And I mean, if you don't know a lot about San Diego, you know right now we have a huge homeless population and some live near our downtown area. They're overly populated and some have chosen different areas so that they can live, which sometimes are on the side of the freeways or on the side of the residential areas, in these specific areas where some of these fires have happened. So you know, luckily they got all of the fires out and, as far as I know, no one was hurt. So thankfully people are okay. And I do know they did send out an evacuation notice for people to evacuate because it seemed like the fire was spreading really, really fast. I was on my way home that day and it was ash flying over the freeway and I was like, oh shit, like some shit is really burning, huh. So yeah, it's.

Speaker 3:

I feel like it's also the norm in san diego around this time to wake up and it like smells like fire outside, or you have ash on your car, or it's like the sky is an orangey color at certain points. But yeah, definitely keeping everything watered and, you know, your plants hydrated as much as possible at least 100% To try to prevent that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a neighbor across the street. She's always outside spraying her yard and I never, you know, I I would be like, why is she doing that? But then, honestly, like our front yard gets really, really brown during the summer and so it honestly makes sense, like you know, if just so happened, the wrong spark hits our yard, it probably will go up in flames because of how dry it is also did you see?

Speaker 3:

so they were. They were, I think, evacuating sdsu or like clearing out sdsu because of the fire, and I guess while that was happening there was also a shooting I did not know that on the campus so you know I did get a notification for lewd.

Speaker 2:

It was I got an email for about lewd lewd behavior, I think. So that's what happened. Someone was on campus and they had a shooting.

Speaker 3:

So it says the gunfire ring out close to the trolley stop on campus near Campanile Drive and Hardy Avenue. Authorities informed the Aztec community at 5.45 pm that they had confirmed one person had been shot and taken to the hospital and a second person had been arrested. So two people were taken into custody and a search was underway for a third. So neither the victim nor the suspect are affiliated with the school.

Speaker 3:

I think that kind of goes hand in hand with what you said about you know, the homeless population, not saying they were, that's who it was or anything like that, because obviously no details have been released but just like the crowding in san diego, you know, and the trolley stops are a place that you know it has a high volume of people in and out and you know being going from one place to the other. So sometimes these trolley stops also are not well lit. So a lot of things happen, like you know, in these, in these different trolley stops and stuff. But yeah, I guess while the fire was going on and everything else, this happened. So I'm glad nobody was like died or anything like that, you know, know, and that people were caught, because SDSU is it's a lot of people at that school, you know, and it's so close to home Like it's, it's crazy when a shooting happens, like in your city, not too far from you, you know.

Speaker 2:

SDSU is like smack dab in the middle of a residential area right like it's not just the college, it's also like all the sororities and fraternities are also right there and then restaurants and like people's homes, apartments, all student living. Like it's homes, like apartments, all student living. Like it's literally smack dab on the top of a hill in the middle of a residential area.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Like it's a nice area. It is a nice area.

Speaker 2:

We've done a lot of work on SDSU. It's a very nice campus, I mean, you know, I think it's cool, I think it's really really nice. But I say that to say that it's just, it's in the middle of so much and that if anything like that was like you know things like that happening, kind of alarms, like you know the entire neighborhood. So if there's the fire right here on the side of SDSU, like everybody has to you know, and like SDSU catches on fire, like all of that, is Like traffic area.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, like all of that would be fucked up Right. Fucked up right, to say the least, like you know, because even when there's concerts over there, the traffic is backed up, like all the way down the eight, it's backed up down college, it's backed up in a bunch of different areas, like so much that little, that space affects so much, especially for traffic, like if any big thing is going on.

Speaker 3:

Definitely Do fires happen a lot like in New Jersey and stuff or what's like. What do they call it? Like you know those?

Speaker 2:

natural disasters, that happens there.

Speaker 1:

So not not since I've been here I just got out here in April, but I think that didn't they have like a fire last year or something like that. I feel like that was last year. It was like a fire near New York when I was in LA. They used to have them a lot, though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what natural disasters happen over there, do you know, like if hurricanes or like?

Speaker 1:

Probably like blizzards. But we did get like a really bad rain. Did you say lizards?

Speaker 2:

no, blizzards, oh blizzards. I was like, wait what?

Speaker 3:

sorry they do they?

Speaker 1:

it's funny, though they do have these bugs out here. I don't know what they're called, but it's this bug that they have like signs all over new jersey. That's like if you see this bug kill it, they say like it's killing the environment, or something like that. Or maybe like locusts it almost looks like a moth kind of, but it has like spots on it so blizzards, when does it?

Speaker 3:

when does snowfall usually start? Do you know?

Speaker 1:

I'm I'm hoping not soon, but but from what, what people were telling me like the global warming is like really affecting it, like out here, because by this time it's usually cold and, like I said, it's like 70 degrees out here. So you know, I, I know global warming is definitely not a good thing, but you know, I don't know, I don't know if I can handle a real winter, just yet, but I'm in no rush for this.

Speaker 3:

Now. That's crazy, yeah, yeah, a four season stay, is it's not?

Speaker 1:

for the week, yeah, but you know it's funny as I'm looking at the background of this picture, like that's how all the weak yeah, but you know it's funny as I'm looking at the background of this picture like that's how all the trees look out here right now. Everything is like orange, yellow, like it's beautiful, yeah.

Speaker 3:

The air is probably so crisp and fresh too in the morning.

Speaker 1:

It is, it really is. I went for a run. I'm joining a run club next week. I just started running again. I appreciate that, but it was like just breathing in the air while running. I was like this is intense.

Speaker 2:

Do you have? Have you ever struggled with asthma or anything?

Speaker 1:

or anything. No, I get really bad allergies, Like my sinuses get really bad. They used to be terrible in Los Angeles. I guess it was just the air, but yeah, it hasn't been too bad here. Well, actually during the summer it was bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one of the things about allergies and asthmatic symptoms is cold air, and really high heat affects that a lot. So that's something to look out for, like if you've never had it or experienced it, just you know, be mindful.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm trying my best to mentally prepare for it.

Speaker 3:

Is the elevation different. Like you know, when they say, when you go to colorado or certain places like, it's like the air is a lot different also because of the elevation versus like la or I'm not too sure.

Speaker 1:

That's a good question and and I because I'm thinking about it like it feels like that might be something, but I'm not too sure. But yeah, I do feel in different moments where I feel like I'm breathing differently out here, so it's possible that's cool, though.

Speaker 3:

A running club, that's. That's a good way to like. Do you know people like in New Jersey, or is that like a good way to meet people?

Speaker 1:

for you so. So I'm doing it to meet people. Also, I don't know if I'm gonna be running the whole way, like I don't like running like that. So I'm kind of like a run slash walk club.

Speaker 3:

You're like I'm just here for the vibes.

Speaker 1:

So I probably like run half the way and then walk the rest.

Speaker 3:

That's cool though.

Speaker 2:

So it says that New Jersey's average elevation is 250 feet above sea level. The higher points of New Jersey is like High Point State Park in northern New Jersey, which is 1,800 feet, and then the lowest point is Atlantic Ocean Shoreline in New Jersey. So it's pretty flat, but I feel like New York all of that is pretty flat because it's all just it's all in the water. That's true. Okay, moving on to our last topic, megan the stallion. She dropped a documentary I think it came out on Halloween where she was talking essentially about the last 10 or so years of her life, all the way from 2013, all the way up till now. It highlighted a lot of big, major events in her life and in her career and you know she essentially just talked about how she's been feeling and what has happened from then, all the way up until now. Have y'all had the chance to watch any clips or highlights for any immediate thoughts?

Speaker 1:

I've seen a lot of the clips. I started watching maybe about half of it so far. It's long, it is, but you know what I'm enjoying what I've seen so far. Like you know, she's from where I'm from, I'm from Houston, so you know it's nice to see somebody that elevates their career, their career, their lives to that point. From the clips I've I've been trying not to be judgy of them, um, because I I definitely have been seeing, like her getting a lot of backlash on, like you know, the people saying that she lied. Well, she did. She said that she, she lied about having sex with tori lanes. But people are trying to flip it like maybe she lied about everything, but I don't, I don't think she lied about everything. I I think you know she she might have felt a little embarrassment like, have you seen tori lanez?

Speaker 3:

I have any thoughts, stephanie I mean, obviously we're gonna dive deeper, but well, one thing that stood out to me is there were like clips of him almost like mocking like in one of his music videos, and it's really unfortunate, you know, for for him to do that, given the depth of and the seriousness of everything that happened, right. So, yeah, I think that just stood out to me that kind of like it made my stomach like like disgusted, I guess, I mean, and just like yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean the. I feel like the documentary did a very good her first single. That which I didn't realize was Big Ol' Freak, but that's my shit and I did not. I don't think I realized that that song was the one that essentially propelled her career, which in hindsight, you think about it, I thought Body was the one. That was the you know the huge hit. I didn't realize Big Ol' Freak was her biggest hit. That, you know, kicked off her career.

Speaker 2:

But I guess for me, some of the big pieces from the show I mean from this documentary was just how that whole thing with Tory Lanez affected her and how, how social media can put you in such a fucking depression, especially when people have so much to say about your life or try to create opinions about you. And I was telling Paris last night I was just like when I think about just what we do and what I do on social media and all of that, you know, that type of shit scares me Like I have to. Then, every single person I encounter, or every single person I meet, I have to question whether they are loyal, genuine. Are they really there for me? Do they? Is what they're saying to me? Is the truth Like I have to question that about everybody I come into close contact with. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's. I think. Another part that stood out to me that was really sad is that you know she lost her mom and her friend was there for her when she lost her mom and her friends essentially like switched up on her, you know like the details of that case are so you know, blurry, I feel like, and fogged right and nobody knows, and only the people that were there, right.

Speaker 3:

But regardless of that, the friend switched up on her in one way or another. She switched up and I can't imagine like you're in one of your lowest points and then somebody that trust you know, that you trust or that you feel you know was there for you, authentically switching up on you. Is like on top of social media, on top of everything else like it. You know it's so many layers and I can't imagine, like the mental health state that she was in at that time and you know she didn't have her parents to go to or really anybody it sounds like that she could go to and just like for support and a hug or whatever she needed. You know, in that time yeah, yeah, 100.

Speaker 2:

I yeah, I know that in one of the one of the portions of the of the documentary, she, this was, and I remember a lot of the stuff that they highlight. I remember specific, I remember specifically when it was happening, like when she took a long break off of social media and went to a mental health retreat. Like when she took a long break off of social media and went to a mental health retreat and she was gone for at least like almost a year or a year or half of the year, like six months or so, and wasn't putting out any music, wasn't putting anything on social media, and then she came back and that's when she was starting to lose a lot more weight, to starting to diet seriously, exercise more and everything. And you know she was. She was talking about how she felt and why she decided to go to the retreat and she was like you know, I was in bed for two days and I couldn't and I couldn't get up, I couldn't move, and she was like I was crying for two days and I just couldn't stop. And she was like you know, I didn't. I've never felt like I wanted to kill myself, but but that day I did. You know she was like I would rather not be here and live through this rather than be here and go through this shit. And I was just like damn, like that's just, that's just sad and like fucked up, and also just remember, just sitting there and just thinking like girl, I've been, I've been there before, like it's.

Speaker 2:

It's also the realization of fame at an early age, and early, I mean. You know she started becoming famous in her early twenties and just realizing that you know the, the shit you go through in your twenties and in your thirties and, honestly, for the rest of your life. But it hit different when you in your twenties and you know I just was like having a best friend who then turns around and switches up on you because of some man and or for whatever happened, and then for her to get on social media talking about you fucked with some dude that she was on and it's like, but this is not what any of this is about. And when she kept saying it, I just kept thinking I, I'm here, I hear you, like I just I don't get it.

Speaker 2:

Like the discourse of the conversation. This nigga shot me like I I'm, I'm confused at what we're talking about. Like you know, I and I remember thinking that when all of this shit was happening, with this whole case and everything like what? What exactly are we talking about here? Like I thought, the point of the conversation was to try and figure out if he shot her or not. Is that no longer what we're talking about?

Speaker 3:

it was very confusing I think it also shed light on abusers and the way they like, the way they are, I guess in a lot of cases is like it's a joke to them, you know, or they make, they can make a mockery out of you and it's such a common thing, you know. He then turned around, made a music video and had references to her, like threatening her, um, and also like she said that she performed in the rolling loud and then he performed immediately after her. Like these are all intimidation tactics, approaches, and like that's what they do. Like they know where to get you, they know what to do, they know how to be slick about shit. Like he wore a mask, I think she said, or something like so then he could pass. Yeah, like you're still breaking the restraining order, bro, you still know what you're doing to her mentally. Mentally like the anxiety of her trying to perform and knowing this fool is backstage, or like prepping to come out as soon as you're done. Like that's in your head, like that's fucked up.

Speaker 1:

And it's powerful for her to shed light on that, because that's a common thing absolutely yeah yeah, I'm curious to watch the whole thing because, like I said, just seeing how much loss she's experienced in a journey like losing a dad, losing a mom, losing a friend, like, I'm just interested to see how she overcomes or is dealing with it, not even if she's overcame it, like just how is she getting through it?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think, for me, because for me I think what I got out of it as well, was that her mom was like a person that really was kind of her motivator, you know, at the start of her career. And when she lost her mom, she lost that, she lost that motivation, she lost that sense of fun, she lost all of the. You know, all of the different ways that kept her going, went away when her mom passed away. And you know, passed away and you know, when you have a big cheerleader like that and then one day they're gone, it's hard to get back into an area where you can. Now you have to be the cheerleader for yourself and the people are in. You're looking for the people around you to be that, and she thought her best friend was that and turns out she was not. So now you've lost some more people around you. And then all these people around you. You don't know these people. You just got to pay these people. You pay them to. Yes, ma'am, you, you know, and that is completely different. Like you know, it's not the same, but one of my favorite parts of this whole documentary was the conversation about the chips and so, and you'll see it.

Speaker 2:

She wanted these jalapeno chips and she was hungry. I guess she had. She seemed like she had been traveling, she had been working all day. She was, she was not at home. And she got to her hotel room they ordered her food and she was like I don't want any of this, I just want the jalapeno chips.

Speaker 2:

So the assistant guy had went and got chips, but it was the Cheetos chips. She was like no, those are the wrong ones, I don't want those. And she's like they're in the bag. He goes back I guess he doesn't find the chips. And she's like and she was like you know what? I don't even want to eat, no more. And she and the guy in who's recording is like but there's food there. And she was like no, but I have my mouth set on something specific. And you know, when you are set on something you know and something else comes, it's like you don't want it. Something you know and something else comes, it's like you don't want it.

Speaker 2:

And when I tell you, this bitch goes into the room and she starts having an emotional breakdown and was like. She was like you know, and she started talking about the case. She starts talking about the trial and she's like you know, I don't want to see none of these motherfuckers and I don't want to have to go do any of this. And she was like you know, it's really been fucking and I me and paris were sitting there cracking up because I have been there, do you know, like a long day at work and I come home and I I'm definitely a chip eater when I'm stressed, or I've had a long day and I've come home and been looking for a specific chip and the motherfuckers ain't there and then I'm sitting down and I would just be pissed.

Speaker 2:

And so anybody asks me anything that ain't got shit to do with these chips. I'm cussing out and I'm going off and next thing I know I'm like you know what, I'm sorry. It was just I really chips when I got, oh, and they were nowhere to be fucking found and it just it was my favorite part because it was a very real moment, like when you, when you have something that you wanted and you just it's not there or you can't get it or have no access to it, it'd really be fucking with you, especially if you're hungry.

Speaker 3:

It's like the cherry on top.

Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly, Exactly. I think some of the other things for me was, you know like. First of all, why Tory Lanez?

Speaker 3:

That's a great question.

Speaker 2:

I thought she was cute with, was it YG? That's the white boy, the rapper. No, not YG.

Speaker 3:

Wasn't she with.

Speaker 2:

Moneybagg what's that other man's name?

Speaker 3:

Wasn't she with Money bag yo I think they they could noodled beef? She? No, I think they were like together before he got with ari, I thought she was with party.

Speaker 2:

No, she, she wasn't really sure what party next door right, what's, what's that? G-e-z, that's his name oh the they was commuting on the social media at one point and I thought they was cute.

Speaker 2:

I don't really know what party next door looks like. Let me look him up real quick, but here's the thing I just feel like and also I think this is another thing, right like you know, when you're young and out here just dating, and they did highlight how much she was drinking, which she was drinking a lot, because I remember watching videos on social media like oh girl, you pouring, you throwing that hennessy, and do say back and okay, she went through a phase of let me drive the boat Right and then, like it was like doing shots of honey, like they were in the bottle.

Speaker 3:

Right, that was like a little bit of movement for a little while.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, see, party partisan. He looked like a regular nigga to me, like I don't, I don't under I don't, and maybe that's what she liked. He looked better than what's that little boy name? We was just talking about Bear Shrouder.

Speaker 1:

Trey Thompson.

Speaker 2:

Tory Lanez.

Speaker 1:

Tory Lanez.

Speaker 3:

I mean Tory Lanez, sorry, tory Lanez, Sorry.

Speaker 2:

No, that should be a clip. So, wrapping this up, we I think all in all, you know, shortly by the time we get to the point to where Megan is talking about the case, at that point she's also talking about her new album. This is during the time she also dropped Trauma Zine, which I guess didn't really do that well on the charts, but I mean she had singles that did really well on the album. I think it was like Her and Plan B. Plan B is one of my top favorite songs. And then, shortly thereafter that, she started promoting. Once the Trial Is Over and she Won Her Case with the other record label that she used to be with, she started to work on her new album that's out now, which is Megan I think it's a self-titled album right. And then Act Two just came out, which is with I think it's a self-titled album, right. And then Act Two just came out, which is with some bonus music. Any thoughts?

Speaker 3:

No, I think it just shows the importance of, like, if you need a break, to take that break and taking care of putting your mental health first and utilizing resources and just yeah, taking a break if you need it, like whether that's from social media or public platforms or just whatever that means for you yeah and it looks like she having fun right now.

Speaker 1:

Also, like you know, with some of the songs I've been, I've been seeing her put out like it seems like she she's having fun videos and she's always been into anime, so I think it's cool that she had that song come out, the one that's all over tiktok right now.

Speaker 3:

My, my daughter, sings that song. I love that. But yeah, I think it's cool that she's playing with that and, you know, because she's always been like an anime fan, so why not get creative with it?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think that I think that's good. I feel I feel like, if anything, the anime community loves her and loves the fact that she loves anime. I think that the music that she's putting out now is I miss the. I miss how she used to talk about shit and how she used to talk how she would talk shit about dating men, like one of the things she would say she said in the documentary was because somebody asked her you don't feel objectified with the things that you wear. And she's like men are objects to me. And I said, yes, tell them. It's like yes, girl, like you know, I just tell them. It's like yes, girl, like you know, I just it's.

Speaker 2:

I feel like when women want to show their bodies, they all men always want to question being them, being objectified or you know. And then always the conversation about sexual harassment and rape comes into play because of how women want to dress and show their bodies, when if motherfuckers would just keep their hands to themselves, we wouldn't have to have this conversation. And then why is it always because this woman wants to dress a certain way that it has to be in that same type of conversation, like, just keep your fucking hands to yourself. It's really just that simple, and so, for me, what attracted me to Megan when I started to listen to her a while ago was just how much she talked about men and dating them and using them as objects and how she pimped them out Like that. Just it would be like, yeah, I'm here for it. I think it's also how I felt about dating men, so it was like, oh, she's saying the shit that I was I'd be saying, but my intrusive thoughts, yes, my intrusive thoughts, exactly, exactly, but overall I thought the documentary was a 10 out of 10.

Speaker 2:

I think it was really good. I think it's good to get some. You get to know megan for who she is and I wish her nothing but the best, honestly yeah, it was good all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, we will take a quick little pause and then we'll do our spiritual segment and then we will be right back. Hey, y'all, if you like what you heard, make sure you join the conversation. We always say to make sure to like, comment and subscribe, and we definitely want you to do that. But also, we would love if you would join in with us. There's a link in the description where you can actually send us messages. You can also make sure to tag us on social media. Put up your favorite clips of the show and then tag us and we will repost them on our stories. That is the best way to get in communication or community with us, and we would love to see y'all interact with the content. Anyway, thank you for following us and thank you for listening, and we'll see you back for the remainder of the show. Bye, back for the remainder of the show. Bye, all right, and we're back for our spiritual segment.

Speaker 2:

So we chose a affirmation card today and it says I ask, I believe I shall receive. And it says my love is simple. It's a simple equation One plus one equals two. The key is to believe, really, really believe. You may think you are delusional and people in your life may think you're insane, but this is how we break generational curses, innovate, raise the bar and introduce new ways of living. And the prompt says what do I desire? Do I genuinely believe I'm worthy of receiving it? How does that resonate with either one of you? Who wants to start first?

Speaker 3:

I guess King of Faith.

Speaker 1:

That's hilarious. Yeah, that does resonate for me. Like you know, I think I've been in a space of manifesting a lot, so like really having to believe those manifestations, as the kids would say, being delulu about them, because if I don't believe it, how will I get it? And I'm finding like the more you tell yourself what you want, even if you don't believe it, at some point you'll get there.

Speaker 3:

I also am a Delulu queen, so people say it's like it's a bad thing, but I made it this far.

Speaker 3:

No, honestly, there's a lot of things in my life where, like I've, you know, envisioned it and just kind of, even if you set it in the back of your head and believe it like it's like, oh, it's going to happen at some point, it ends up happening, you know, and I feel like you, just if you have it in the back of your mind or you really believe it's going to happen, like you naturally, hopefully, will align your decisions and your actions and everything with the path that's going to get you there.

Speaker 3:

So, also breaking generational patterns right, like I grew, you know I'm Latina and a lot of the way I was raised is like you, you work hard, you have this job and you do this right. So I think embracing the fact that you can also monetize, having a creative outlet and, you know, having bring in more, I think is a is a cool way to break certain generational patterns and lead the way for my kids. So then if they decide to do that, they can find other ways instead of just working like a nine-to-five or whatever society expects you to do for me, I think that I'm in a space to where I'm really just trying to finish school.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, I'm in school. Oh, mike, I'm in school. I decided to go back to school, I was laid off and right after I was finishing my HR certification and decided that I was going to go back to get my BA in communications and creative writing, which was also one of the reasons why I was like, okay, if I really want to expand, if we want to expand this show, then having that communications background, having that creative writing background, will help with us creating each episode, which was part of, you know, my decision, but also because I want to write a few novels, right? So so for me, this card is the more I make sure to work towards that goal and just to take every day positively. And then, you know, working, trying to, you know, take start the day with positivity, even if at the end of the day, it's a shit show. Just taking it for what it is and just believing that at the end of the day, everything will be fine and I will get through all the things and that, you know, the show will be great, work will be fine and also, you know, making sure that my marriage is good.

Speaker 2:

I think I've say all the time that you know the people that you are with. They choose every day to be with you because they simply do not have to, and you know vice versa, but the more is I. If I try to stay positive, then things will. I will have positive outcomes. Just continuing to move forward is how it really resonates with me, and being positive and with that that brings us to the end of the show. We hope you enjoyed today's episode. Mike, thank you so much for coming to hang out with us. I hope that you had a good time. I know we talk a lot of shit here.

Speaker 1:

No, I had a great time. Thank y'all so much for having me.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for taking the time.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, yes, we. We are on a journey here. We are doing our best to move the show to the next level. So, for all the listeners out there and subscribers on our Patreon, look out for some changes and look out for the growth. Other than that, make sure to like, comment and subscribe to our platform. So that is YouTube and Patreon and follow us on all of our social media. Stephanie, do you want to tell the people where they should be following us?

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