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Hella Chisme Podcast
Wine, Wheels, and Halloween Feels
Welcome back to another episode of the Hella Chisme Podcast.
This week, With Halloween just around the corner, the excitement is building, and so is the challenge of juggling work and festive plans. The Husband of the show has thrown a surprise weekend getaway into the mix, adding an extra layer of logistical intrigue. We're reminiscing about past costume escapades. This week It's all about family, community gatherings, and creating new memories to cherish. We've got stories of trick-or-treating in San Leandro, and the Wisconsin , wrapping it up with a impactful spiritual segment.
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Speaker 2:You know they can't play on my court, can't hang with the big dogs, stay on the porch. Blow the whistle. Blow the whistle.
Speaker 3:Blow the whistle, blow the whistle, pero no hay boda titi. Me pregunto si tengo muchas novias.
Speaker 2:Muchas novias.
Speaker 2:Hoy tengo a una mañana a otra. Pull up in that monster automobile gangsta With a bad bitch that came from Sri Lanka. Yeah, I'm in that tonka color of Willy Wonka. You could be the queen, but watch the queen conker. Okay, first things. First, I'll eat your brain. Then I'ma start rocking gold teeth and fangs, cause that's what a motherfucking monster do. Hairdresser for Milan? That's what monster do Monster? Just have the heels. That's the monster shoe. Young money is the roster and the monster crew, and I'm all up, all up, up, all up in the bank with the funny face I ain't fake, I ain't noticed because my money ain't that's for all
Speaker 1:the barbs I'm a monster.
Speaker 3:That was my halloween.
Speaker 2:I was gonna sing thriller, but I was like let's go a different route yes, everyone does thriller um happy halloween, everyone.
Speaker 3:Welcome back for another episode of the hello cheesemade podcast. My name is dana and I am stephanie and we are your hosts.
Speaker 3:As you can see, I'm drinking wine today because, let me just tell you, maybe monday mondayed all over me today. Okay, did it. I didn't leave work until almost six o'clock, first of all, I woke up. What time did I wake up? I woke up at six o'clock like 5 58 I was up, I think and rolled out of bed. Alarm went off at six, was up, got dressed, was about to be at the house.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was supposed to make it to work by seven o'clock, baby. When I got outside and got in my car, I started going down the street and it sounded like a dead body was on the back of my tires. What? And I said, what the fuck is wrong with my car? And I drove. And so I bust the bitch at the stop sign, go into the driveway and my back left, my back, my back right tire is completely flat to the ground, like my rim is rubbing on the pavement.
Speaker 1:That's crazy how.
Speaker 3:I don't fucking know um. The light had came on for the pressure for a while ago, but I was like there could start there, start there.
Speaker 1:You notice, sometimes when you say shit out loud then you're like wait.
Speaker 3:The light came on. It's been on for at least, a shame to say now. The light came on a month ago, got it, but that light has come on before and there's never been nothing wrong with my tires where I've like gone back, you know, to get it fixed and all the shit right.
Speaker 3:So, oh, thank god I'm not muted, so, um, so I didn't think nothing was really wrong with it because there's you know, know, hadn't been no issues. But also, I think I mentioned there is work going on on my freeway, on the 125, by me, so I feel like I must. I could have ran over another screw, I could have done a multitude of things, right, but baby, that tire is flat. I came in the house and I was like I need to go to work now and paris took me um, and then I got a chance to show him my office, because he has not seen it yet and that was just the start of my life, and then after that it just completely unfolded right after that.
Speaker 1:So they are making me work for this vacation so that's funny that you had an issue with your car, because I took my son to the dentist, so I was inside, I was inside while he was, you know, getting everything done, and then we were walking out and this like guy came up to me and he's like, oh, like, did they already?
Speaker 1:they already told you about like your car being hit, right? And I was like what, right? And I was like what? And then I was like what? And then he's like, yeah, like a car came and like it was a hit and run, and I was like what. And then, um, uh, so I was like walking and I was like, well, where did it hit? And they're like on the front, so it's a parking lot, and then it's like you know the asphalt, and then there's like a concrete center divide and then on the other side asphalt. So I'm like going to the front of my car, like to check it, and this guy's like, hey, another guy came and then he's like, hey, like do you need a license plate, number, plate number?
Speaker 1:And I said, well, I'm barely like figuring out what happened, like do you, did you see, like what happened?
Speaker 1:And then he's like, yeah, like some young kids were like in this white beamer and they were like burning tire and and their dumb asses went over the freaking middle thing, hit your car and then, like they were trying to like reverse out and they couldn't like get the car going at first and I think that whole thing like scraped their transmission and then they were finally able to get out and then they took off, um, but that guy wrote down the license plate. So then I was like calling my dad and then, um, I like called my dad and then this other car pulled up and then it was like two younger kids in that car and they're like hey, like we actually took a video of the car like taking off after they hit you. Um, do you want me to send you the video? And I was like yeah, and then this other guy was like hey, like I saw the whole thing, like if you want to call the police, so it was like four or five people that ended up coming up to me.
Speaker 1:I know, and I was like, I think it's like because they saw me and it was just me, like with my kids, you know, and then they saw me like you know and I don't know like, and I'm really grateful for that because, um, not everybody would speak up.
Speaker 3:Wait so so they. So is it bad?
Speaker 1:No. So I ended up looking at the front and I guess they just um, so like my license plate, it's kind of bent. And then, like the license plate frame, it just like cracked a little bit on the side, like to where you can't really see it. Um, and I was like in my head I'm like okay, so what am I gonna do? Like I'm gonna call the police. Then they're gonna have to figure out who this person is. If it's their car, figure out who their?
Speaker 3:insurance is yeah that's why I knocked. What is that? Is this a dance?
Speaker 1:oh, he's Halloween vibes how cute.
Speaker 3:Obsessed with these fucking dancing things, we're just closing.
Speaker 4:The other one down here too, and then I got your outfit and three sets of those underwear. Thank you.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. It's fine, there's my husband, everyone.
Speaker 1:And his Halloween and his Halloween costume.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So anyways, I was like like, okay, like if I call the police, like they're gonna have to figure out who this person is, where this car is at and everything, um, and then what if I have to pay a deductible? And then is it gonna go on my insurance, like I was just like, and then my dad's like, well, I mean you have the option of calling the police and just like telling them. So I mean they cannot do that to somebody else and I'm like, yeah, but that's crazy, I'm sorry yeah, no, I mean, it just sucks huh like when it's your car stuff yes, yeah, it's for me.
Speaker 3:It's like I don't. I think I've said this, I don't know. Anyway, I hate paying for shit for a car which has also been another part of the whole.
Speaker 1:I know I need, and probably I know at some point I am gonna need to just go ahead and get a new one, but yeah that's part of the reason why I'm just like yeah, but I hope you know, whoever did that like just remember karma, like they're really lucky that I wasn't in the car with my kids, uh, because then you know I really would have like I know, like you know, how I feel about motherfuckers and how they drive.
Speaker 3:Here in San Diego, people be driving stupid as fuck and it drives me nuts. How was your weekend?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, that was our Mondays, guys fucking great, fucking, amazing Monday. Get down. So my weekend was good. I went to Temecula Friday, no Saturday, and my son had a tournament Saturday and Sunday, so drove up Saturday, came back back down, went back up Sunday morning, yeah wait, so you drove back and forth to Temecula for two days yeah, the rooms were for $500.
Speaker 1:Some of the parents got an Airbnb and I guess it was like really nice, but I guess it looked like it hadn't had people in it for like months like cleaning, like nothing oh, it hadn't been cleaned like yeah, like cobwebs and stuff.
Speaker 1:So I was like honestly, like whatever, like I just, you know, I went back and forth, it's fine and but sunday was interesting because there was like baseball drama, which was my first encounter with that. No, I was more like um the umpire. You know, what I will say is that I'm not big on playing like race cards or anything like that, but I will will say that, like the team you know we have my sons on is majority Latinos and you know, not everybody is like completely fluent in English. Or, like you know, we everyone looks Latino, everyone looks Latino. So when we go into certain areas to compete? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Were there white people? Yes, in Marietta, temecula, and we were Latinos and we had the speaker with their walk-up songs.
Speaker 3:Okay, so they were asking for birth.
Speaker 1:Iup songs and you know Okay, so they were asking for birth certificates. They were asking for birth certificates of our kids to make sure they were the right age. They were doing crazy calls. It was crazy At the baseball game yes, asking eight-year-old children for their birth certificates and passport. So that was that saturday. Um, you know, we just it ended up almost becoming an altercation and um, it is what it is like. I mean, we're gonna stand up for our kids. You know what I mean I mean yeah, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1:They shouldn't never have anybody you guys can contact about it yeah, we've done all that, um, and, but it was crazy because we went an hour overtime, so the game was two and a half hours long. Yikes, because it was just like battling it out. Yeah, no, so that was that was crazy. That was my weekend, um, yeah, and now I'm just I'm ready to go to vacation. Yes, I'm just like getting my shit, like I'm so ready after that speaking into existence.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm fine, like I wasn't getting excited, but now I am.
Speaker 3:I haven't left my kids this long, I don't think, since I've been single oh, my goodness, girl, I mean I haven't left my kids this long in a minute when I tell you I am ready. Paris was packing today and I was like, thank God that makes it real. He called me today and was like so what does your next week look like? And I was like what do you mean? He was like until Thursday and I was like I have meetings and like. And I was like um, what do you mean? He was like like until thursday and I was like I have meetings and stuff. He was like, oh, because I was thinking we could just stay thursday. I'm like first of all, I have a job, second of all, I've already put my time in and so I mean I wish when do you come back?
Speaker 3:oh, we come back Monday, monday morning or afternoon or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, you should take extra time off, dana, or take your work. You can't take your computer.
Speaker 3:If we were already staying until Tuesday, then I could definitely take my work computer with me, because I work from home Wednesday and Thursday. But since we're not staying until Tuesday, then no, it's not going to work. But also, if we were going to do that, then we could have stayed in our timeshare, because that hotel room was not cheap so you leave Thursday and come back Monday. Yeah, Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's a good long weekend.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same.
Speaker 3:It's. You know it's good for the first time and go and enjoy. Yeah. Now, if my flight get canceled on Wednesday, that I mean on Monday, you know, that's nothing I can control.
Speaker 1:Right but you know, I hear you, you know it happens.
Speaker 3:Nothing I can control. You know we were delayed, it was canceled. What am I supposed to do? I'll see you on Tuesday or Wednesday, yeah, what am I supposed to do? I'll see you on Tuesday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, but you know it's also we are clearly so this episode. By the time it comes out, it will be the week before Halloween. So, um, happy Halloween, yes, and um, you know, make sure if you are out in the streets that y'all are being safe and you're checking them kids candy, because you know people be out there doing crazy stuff. I think last year for Halloween, we did a special episode, I think specifically for Halloween. Halloween, we did a special episode. I think specifically for halloween, yeah, we did a bonus episode where we wore our favorite halloween costumes. Um, do you remember that?
Speaker 3:yeah when I was the astronaut. And um, what were you? What did you dress up as the?
Speaker 1:The Joker.
Speaker 3:The Joker yes, and we did the makeup. And we did all kinds of stuff. So last year, if you did not get a chance to listen or watch the episode we did last year, the bonus episode we did last year for Halloween, make sure you go to our YouTube and watch it. Yes, sir. I'm pretty sure we were acting up and drinking, so yeah, good times so, speaking of um, speaking of halloween, do you have any major plans this year that you're going to be doing, or what's going to be the tea, what's going on?
Speaker 1:I think for this year. So a lot of my family members live in like a community, like a townhouse community, so I think we're all going to meet there at one of their houses, get pizza and stuff and then take all our kids. It's like freaking 12 kids, 10 kids, um, trick-or-treating cute yeah, so that'll be cute.
Speaker 1:Also, my cousin you know she's in that jeep club and they do like a a trunk or treat event, um, so I might take my kids to that. Just go show her some support, and I don't have any other plans. I love that I should go be a hoochie somewhere, but to be determined look at what I found.
Speaker 3:I found an old picture of me for halloween. Let's see, I found an old picture of me for Halloween let's see yes, plunge neck. I made that tank top that I'm wearing, did you? I did. This is during my fashion designing era. I was trying to give the pumpkin face makeup face or whatever. I would watch the YouTube tutorials to do my makeup. Yeah, I don't even remember, I don't even know what we did that night, but this was the best.
Speaker 3:The best addition of what I did I was so skinny then Makes me miss it. Rip to what I did. I was so skinny, then Makes me miss it RIP to our skinny buddies. Rip to our skinny buddies.
Speaker 1:Be careful with scrolling through all your pictures on here.
Speaker 3:I know I'm trying to get out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's cute though.
Speaker 3:Yes, let me see if I can find another.
Speaker 1:I was trying to find the ones from this year I'm going to be Jack the Skeleton, amaya's going to be Sally and Junior's going to be Oogie Boogie.
Speaker 3:I know who Jack is. Are these all from the same show? It's from Night okay that's what I thought.
Speaker 1:Sally's the one with the dress and the long red hair okay, so the wife or the girlfriend right and then Oogie Boogie is the green. It looks like a potato sack oh, the big yes the big yes, oogie Boogie.
Speaker 3:He damn near looks like a booger. Got it? Yes, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Oogie. Boogie. Yeah, he damn near looks like a booger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got it. That's going to be cute.
Speaker 3:That is going to be cute. I don't know who I'm going to be this year. I know I have to dress up for work and our theme is classic Halloween. Like you know, kind of provoking what you feel to be classic halloween. Um, I wanted to dress up like I may still dress up like ghostbusters, um, or beetlejuice oh, that's cute um, because I'm just like why not? You know?
Speaker 1:yeah, I feel like Ghostbusters is more classic yes, that's how I feel yeah um.
Speaker 3:So I feel like it could be cute or like a scarecrow yeah, see, I'm trying to make it. Oh look, they have the little backpack and everything has spirit already. I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for myself so that I don't have to um, this costume is 80. Okay, can we talk about this for a second?
Speaker 1:this, this halloween shit is expensive oh, it's so expensive my kids costumes. I got them and they were so expensive. I'm just like like 50 bucks each girl.
Speaker 2:I'm like I gotta sell my coochie just to get a halloween costume.
Speaker 3:This is insane right this is insane, like the costume itself is 80 the um the little backpack is. I don't even see the price for this, which scares me even more. I mean jeez louise anyway. Um, yes, be safe out there everybody during Halloween time and make sure that you're checking the candy for the kids. In lieu of Halloween, stephanie's going to be taking us on a wild journey in the wild wild west. Yes, the background of Halloween and just some of the originating facts of Halloween. Some of the originating facts of Halloween. Before we get into that, of course, we are going to take a short break and then we will be back.
Speaker 1:Grab yourself a cowboy and let's go into the wild wild west.
Speaker 3:Grab yourself a cowboy and let's ride him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, duh, what else are we going?
Speaker 3:to do?
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Speaker 2:Bye.
Speaker 1:All right, guys. So, like Dana said earlier, we're gonna talk about, um halloween. We're gonna talk about kind of of like you know where, how it originated, how it came to be, um, maybe, like some traditions you know that we do or that, um, we've seen people do or you know that have gone along with the history of it and just kind of go from there. We're also going to touch a little bit on Dia de los Muertos, you know, because that is a big Latino holiday as well and it's full of plenty of culture. Um, so halloween's origins date back to the ancient uh celtic festival of uh saw salmon.
Speaker 3:it says or so in so in, so in um.
Speaker 1:The celts, who lived uh 2 000 years ago, mostly in the area that is now in the UK and Northern France, celebrate their new year on November 1st. Interesting so. This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on one night before the new year the boundary between the worlds of living and dead became blurred. On the night of October 31st, they celebrated Samen, or Samen, when it was believed that the ghost of the dead returned to Earth, in addition to causing trouble and damaging crops.
Speaker 1:Cells thought that the presence of the under worldly spirits made it easier for the jewish or celtic priests to make predictions about the future. For a people entirely dependent on the volatile natural world, these prophecies were an important source of comfort during the long, dark winter. So the Jews built huge sacred bonfires and the people would gather to burn crops and animals as sacrifices to the Celtic deities. During the celebration, the Celts wore costumes, typically consisting of animal heads and skins, and attempted to tell each other's fortunes. Wow. When the celebration was over, they relit their hearth fires, which they had extinguished earlier that evening from the sacred bonfire to help protect them during the coming winter interesting, so it was like a ritual yeah, so it's basically like a ritual and you know they thought it, you know as a sacrifice, so then they could see into their future or like some sort of exchange like that.
Speaker 1:What's interesting is that they said it was like a new year to them.
Speaker 3:Um, so yeah I mean, I think that, um, interestingly enough that um have you ever watched? Uh, um, did you watch true blood I?
Speaker 3:didn't so something uh was a true blood, it was true blood, or um american horror story that covered kind of like the uh irish uh tradition or um new england traditions of like this um, and they talked about like these type of rituals and traditions and things like that um. Another thing that they talked about was, like the Christianity influence. So when Christianity spread, like for All Saints Day on November 1st and All Souls Day on November 2nd, we're introduced in blending the pagan customs and then the night before, which is Halloween, is known as All Hallows Wait, I'm sorry, yeah, for All Souls Day and All Hallows Eve, and then they would then do the mantle for Diaz de los Muertos on that day of November 2nd, on that day of November 2nd. So it's just interesting how the different, even though Dias de los Muertos is from the Aztec and, and you know, for Latin, America.
Speaker 3:Latino community and then you know, for Halloween is for a complete like on the completely other side of the world. It's interesting how you know they have been tied together, right.
Speaker 1:And how they're like on the completely other side of the world.
Speaker 3:It's interesting how you know they have been tied together right and how they're like on the same day.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah yeah, so there's obviously something here with that like date. Um, yeah, so have you seen those parades that they they've done like in ireland and seven they're like really scary no um cool yeah, they're like really cool.
Speaker 1:Um, what are they? Halloween parade, the name of it uh, oh, and magnus, it's called Magnus Halloween Parade and if you guys look it up, it's pretty crazy. Like they have huge goblin, like what are those called? Like floats and statues and they do all kinds of like stuff and the people dress up like you know, crazy, like vikings and stuff like that, and they just like it's like a whole thing.
Speaker 1:They go all out for it yeah, same thing with like dia de los muertos, um, and certain communities are, or like certain cities celebrate like on a larger scale versus like smaller towns, but they'll do like parades, they'll shut the streets down, like marigolds are a huge thing, um, you know, like for halloween, it's like black cats and ghosts, right, or like witches and and stuff like that. Um, and for the de los Muertos, it's like the marigolds and like the skull paintings and the you know beautiful gowns and everything like that.
Speaker 3:Speaking of which, like the jack-o'-lantern, so the symbolism of pumpkins jack-o'-lanterns originally carved from turnips um which I never knew that oh really yeah, symbol.
Speaker 3:So I guess they used to carve the turnips instead of the jack-o'-lanterns. Uh, symbolize, uh, warding off evil, evil spirits, which I think most people know. That that's what they're for Because, again, like you said, all Hallows, eve and Day of the Souls or All Souls Day is essentially when the-lanterns would scare off any, you know, negative souls or any bad spirits that could come your way during this time. But the pumpkins are more common because of their size and eventually now in North America they have become more of a more common theme for.
Speaker 3:Halloween Now.
Speaker 1:in North America they have become more of a more common theme for Halloween. Okay yeah, it says they used to put like a lit coal inside of the turnip. Wow. That's interesting. That's crazy right, yeah, during the song, saw in um. They said that people believed during the festival that the spirits walked the earth, um, like you said, which later they introduced all souls day, which perpetuated the idea of the living coming into contact with the dead around the same time of the year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's crazy I think it's, it's. It's just so interesting like the nuance of, like the supernatural life and do you believe in like supernatural or ghost?
Speaker 3:I think we've talked about this before, but I do yeah, and like I do too, I think to a certain extent, um, I believe that I believe there's spirits, you know, that float around and you know I believe I'm heavily believing, heavily believe in energy, um, and so like, whether it's negative, whether it's super heavy, and then whether that energy is, like you know, coming from a spirit that's around, um, I think it all plays a part, yeah, connects yeah, I mean, you know we have souls.
Speaker 1:So, like, whether we have, you know, a physical body or not, like we are soul, that's something that it's not, you can't physically touch or obtain, you know right um.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about trick-or-treating. So it says um. There is much debate around the origins of trick-or-treating, but generally there are three theories. The first theory suggests that during sowing, celtic people would leave food out to appease the spirits traveling the earth at night. Over time, people began to dress as these unearthly beings in exchange for similar offerings for food or drink. Um. The second theory speculates there's a cricket in my house. I am not a bug person at all. Oh my god. What if it jumps on me? Okay, sorry, sorry. Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Okay, let me take a minute girl the way, the way that she was so like.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 3:God, oh, my God. It's because Do you know? The first time I had a cricket in the house. So first of all, and we digress, but Martell used to have lizards, so you know those the same. Yes, they eat the crickets. So I could tell you, oh my God, those crickets would get out of that cage all the time and be crawling all over the house.
Speaker 3:And I used to be shooketh. I'm like somebody needs to come and get it, and get it now, because it's too much, and now living out here in San Diego, where I mean the crickets are wild and they're humongous.
Speaker 1:And they just be jumping on you everywhere, like that's crazy. What if it would have jumped on me right here while I was like, while we're recording, and I'm like going crazy, imagine I'll go viral.
Speaker 3:Probably.
Speaker 1:If we would have put the clip. I mean, I'll do it, fuck it, but no, oh my gosh anyway okay.
Speaker 1:So the second theory speculates that the candy boon stems from Scottish practice of guising, which is a secular version of souling, where children and poor adults would collect food and money from local homes in return for prayers for the dead. On all souls' days, geysers dropped the prayers in favor of non-religious practices, with the inclusion of songs, jokes, jokes and other tricks um. The last theory argues that american trick-or-treating stems from bell's nickeling, a german american christmas tradition where children would dress in costume and then call on their neighbors to see if adults could guess the identities of the disguised. In one version of the practice, the children were rewarded with food and other treats if no one could identify them.
Speaker 1:I think, it just became like a mixture. It almost sounds like a mixture of all of that to me.
Speaker 3:At one point? At which point did humans decide to start poisoning children in the candy? Did they say that?
Speaker 1:Dumb ass people.
Speaker 3:I just it's so crazy. But what I was going to say actually was, I wonder, even though obviously trick-or-treating came from this ritual, right? Uh-huh, I also think about, like prostitution, like you know what if the trick-or-treating was also the tricking part of you know treating of Halloween? Maybe you? Know treating of. Halloween, like you know, the ritual. Part of the ritual was sacrificing, you know, a woman's body and you know giving it up for the blood moon, and you know, isn't that that's crazy?
Speaker 1:I've also heard that Halloween is like a way to like give yourself a day to let your demons come out and play, and it's like not frowned upon. You know that that's why a lot of women are more comfortable with like being sexy or seductive or whatever on halloween, and it's like a glimmer of their, their actual, like you, their shadow, like a shadow of themselves or like the you know. Yeah. Something they keep hidden or suppressed in themselves, that they I mean, I'm here for it, you know.
Speaker 3:I love to show if I can get the chance. I love to show a little ass when I'm out for Halloween, you know.
Speaker 1:Or on vacation.
Speaker 3:Or any chance I get.
Speaker 1:You know, show a little skin yeah, um, yeah, also bobbing for apples, like I totally forgot about. That's so weird, huh.
Speaker 3:What? What's the history behind Plotting man?
Speaker 1:Do you think there's like a sexualized history behind that as well? Who can put the apple in there?
Speaker 3:Does it have guac guac 3000 behind Plotting man?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Can you take the whole apple in your mouth? Can you take the whole apple in your mouth? Can you put the whole apple in your?
Speaker 1:mouth. Um. It says that the game traces back to a courting ritual that was part of a roman festival honoring pomona, the goddess of agriculture in abundance. While multiple versions existed, the gist was that young men and women would be able to predict their future relationships based on the game. What kind of relationship? Right.
Speaker 1:When the Romans conquered the British Isles in 43D, the Pomona Festival blended with similarly themed sewing and a precursor to Halloween. I just want to, real quick, show you this picture of these people that have bobbed for apples, holding the apple in their mouth.
Speaker 3:for this picture that is dedication guys with their mary jane shoes I mean, you also have to remember and think about that back then dentistry was not a thing like. And how? How are these people taking care of their teeth long enough to be able to buy for apples Like you had to have some good teeth.
Speaker 3:You have to be able to have good neck ratio to be able how, Dana, you say you got to use the neck girl you got to use the neck girl, you gotta you gotta, you have to be able to bob in that big bucket of water and get that apple with that, with those teeth. You know what I'm saying yeah, I agree, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I know that's funny.
Speaker 3:So I know that also one of the things that I wanted to add. So, like the decorated skulls, so did you already talk about this, no.
Speaker 3:No, okay, so the skeleton figures? Okay, so they're called calaveras. Okay, so that's the skulls, and then the skeleton figures are the catarenas. Okay, so that's the skulls. And then the skeleton figures are the catarenas, and they are key symbols representing the playful acknowledgement of mortality, which is which, in thinking about it, when you talk about the makeup for Diaz de las Muertos, that's normally what it is right the skull and the marigolds, and I'm thinking about, like, being younger, I'm thinking like, usually skulls have been placed in front of you to be something like negative, whereas in a Latin Hispanic community, they think of it as just, like, as time of passing on, like it's just. You know it's just part of the process. They're beautiful.
Speaker 3:Which is interesting, you know. So I just was like it just was like a connection and like something that I thought of yeah. You know how people make them seem so scary when you know they're not actually considered to be scary?
Speaker 1:Right, because there was a life behind it. I you know and like you know, or somebody's family member behind that, like, at the end of the day, like that's what we're all gonna become, right, ashes or skeletons. So like, um, you wouldn't see, like I wouldn't see a family members like skeleton, like ugly, or like you know, like it would be like I don't know yeah yeah, like a love, I guess.
Speaker 1:Um, and latinos like to romanticize everything you know and be beautiful by everything. We're very passionate. I don't know if you've ever seen a novella in your life. If not, I suggest you watch one I've seen.
Speaker 3:I've seen like clips of one. Um I am uh, I think did I tell you that I'm gonna invest in babble? Um, so I'm gonna start, because my, the spanish classes are all booked, like I can never find one.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to invest in Babel especially.
Speaker 3:you know just. I haven't talked to Paris about this yet, but leading up to the election, I just want to start getting things in order, in case we need to, and also I've been wanting to speak Spanish For a minute. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what are traditions that you and your family have done through the years For Halloween?
Speaker 3:Traditions that we have done Are. So my dad used to take us Halloween, used to take us trick-or-treating every year. We are all very big about decorating. It started with my grandmother and you know she always has been a huge decorator. She decorates for every event. She always had her door or in or house decorated. So, um, a good portion of the um traditions came from, obviously, like you know, my grandparents and aunts and uncles and all of them, but it was always decorating, um, we always had halloween costumes every single year and we always went trick-or-treating in San Leandro, which was our favorite area to go trick-or-treating in because, um, the houses were big and immaculate and they were. They would go all out, um, and then, being in school, we would I just dropped a bunch of these cards being in school, we would have to dress up for school and, uh, they had like a contest, um, so, yeah, that's pretty much my tradition, and then, as I got older, it was going out and acting a fucking fool how was trick-or-treating in oakland um?
Speaker 3:I never went trick-or-treating oakland okay the only trick-or-treating I did in oakland was to my grandmother's and my aunt's house. Um other than that, I we went to saliandra okay, got it. That's funny because you know, I mean people would be curious, like you know um I did a trick-or-treat in oakland um because when I was growing up it wasn't like I didn't get the good candy it wasn't really that safe to go trick-or-treating.
Speaker 3:My street was okay for a little while, but for the most part my dad would take us to San Diego. I mean not San Diego, san Leandro, because that was close to his job. It was a little bit more considered suburban and Better candy. Better candy and better houses and better houses.
Speaker 1:the houses were nice in San Leandro and he had like an area he took us to every year that's cute yeah for me, we would always go to my aunt's house and we would dress up and like we would all go over there because, like her, her blocks had the good candy. And yeah, it's crazy to me because I don't remember that much of my childhood. I don't know why it's crazy to me because I don't remember that much of my childhood, I don't know why. But what I like, what always stood out to me, was like going to my aunt's house, my aunt Patty, you know, she's like the huge supporter of us and we would always go to her house and then, like where she lived, yeah, they would give like the big candies, like the big candy bars, or like they would give like the big candies, like the big candy bars, or like they would, uh, decorate really cool.
Speaker 1:I remember there was always this one house and it had like, um, they had lowriders so in the front, like they would put like bodies, like pretend bodies, under the lowriders and then like, or they would, another house would make like maze, like a maze kind of um. And I just remember being like with all my cousins, like it's a lot of us and we're all like around the same age, not too far apart, um, so it was always that was like my highlight. And then we would go back and like to her house and they'll check our candy and we would exchange them and like um, like, like you know, just, oh, give me this one and I'll give you this one and we would use pillowcases. We didn't have these cute buckets that they have nowadays and all that.
Speaker 3:We use pillowcases I mean we, um, I think we use pillowcases one year, but our grandmother bought us bags and buckets every year, new ones. Oh that's cute. And if not? If she didn't, then my mom and dad did. But, I think it's the wine. It's the wine. I think. One year we used a um a bag I mean not a bag, but a um a pillowcase and and in the year that we did, we got hella candy and like my mom had to like um my parent, my both of them had to just essentially take it and like give it away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I was. I'm allergic to chocolate. I think I've shared like chocolate and nuts.
Speaker 1:Ever since you were a child.
Speaker 3:Uh huh. So I couldn't really eat a lot of it, but the Skittles, the nerves, the other shit that I would eat, I could eat. That Martel, however, was eating, would eat all the candy. I love chocolate so he especially would have to.
Speaker 1:They would have to hide it from him we yeah, we got hella candy too in the pillowcases. I think that after this year my goal is going to be to take my kids to Wisconsin every Halloween. Yeah, because you know my mom is moving out there and the experience there was is really nice. You know, it's very like. I don't know if that's considered country or not, but it's like to me as a city girl it's considered country.
Speaker 3:I'm like open land country um any anywhere where there is more than a mile between me and another home that is considered the country right, okay yes, and they live like also like in a suburb community.
Speaker 1:So, like I mentioned to you, like it's cute, they all get like a quad that has a trailer with like hay stacks and the kids are on there and then um the houses they'll do adult trick-or-treating and, uh, kid trick-or-treating, and then afterwards everyone puts a bonfire in their driveway and everyone like has food and everyone will go to each other's houses and moonshine is a big thing out there.
Speaker 3:So they were giving a lot of shot apple pie, moonshine shots oh, that sounds good it was good um, you know it was a good time though places like wisconsin, iowa, all of like those smaller cities and towns, have the best haunted houses. Yeah, we had a. I mean it was really, it wasn't it's not a because they actually get.
Speaker 1:They have a lot of trees and they get like that red and like that yellow, um, you know, like those autumn colors yeah, so it just sets the whole vibe and the leaves on the ground and all that yes, well, do we want to move into talking about Dia de los Muertos? A little bit on that yeah, we can do that you want to properly say it, because I know I'm saying it wrong yeah, so Dia de los Muertos, dia de los Muertos, dia de los Muertos.
Speaker 3:Dia de los Muertos. Dia de los Muertos, I'm going to learn how to roll my R's correctly and losses.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the Roots of Day, so in English, day of the dead is what it's called um. So the roots of day of the dead celebrated in contemporary mexico and among those of mexican heritage um, and in the united states and around the world, goes back about 3 000 years, um to the rituals honoring the dead in pre-columbian mesoamerica. The aztecs and other nahua people living in what is now central mexico held a cyclical view of the universe and saw death as an integral, ever present part of life. Upon dying, a person was believed To travel to Chikunamiklatan, the land of the dead so that's an Aztec word for that Only after getting Through nine challenging levels, a journey of several years, that the person could the person's soul finally reach Mitlaka, the final resting place in Nahua rituals honoring the dead traditionally held in August. Family members provided food, water and tools to aid the deceased in this difficult journey.
Speaker 1:This inspired the contemporary day of the dead practice in which people leave food or offerings on their loved ones graves or set them out on makeshift altars called ofrendas in their homes. So those um altars. You know they're called ofrendas in spanish and you know, like you've seen in the altars on movies and stuff, like they put food, and then you know candles and flowers and all of that. So it is. So, while October 31st is Halloween, november 1st to the 2nd is also days or day of the dead. According to the tradition, the gates of heaven are open at midnight on October 31st and the spirits of children can rejoin their families for 24 hours.
Speaker 1:So Dia de los Ninos is I'm sorry, not Dia de los Ninos, but it's like um dia de los muertos but of kids is the first and then, uh, adult is the second of november that's kind of sad yeah, it is, um, but, like in latino culture, it's like you're basically keeping them alive and like their memory alive, and you're celebrating the life and memories of those you know, in your family or loved ones that have passed on. Similar to Halloween, I guess, but a little more like with love and a little more, um, positive in the way that they believe that the border between the spirit world and the real world just kind of dissolves and you can, like you know, see each other or just celebrate, in a way, um, so yeah, in a way.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, interesting, Well, that is really really cool. It's interesting, just like I said, how the holidays are rooted in different cultures, are from different cultures, but essentially we are honoring the same things and we are, you know, um celebrating life, celebrating bringing back, you know, loved ones and the souls of loved ones together.
Speaker 1:um, yeah and um, that's really cool yeah, also like a tradition is having, like, either hot chocolate or this, um, this hot drink called atole, and they have pan de muerto. It's like a bread, it's like round, it looks almost like a skull but it's not, and you just like eat the bread and you know, have your hot drink and celebrate. There are different movies that have kind of depicted, uh, you know, day of the dead like on disney and and all that. So yeah, I think it's cool that it's about like coco yeah, like coco, the book of life, um, there's different ones.
Speaker 1:Um, and I feel like it kind of sheds light on Latino culture. Mexico City has a huge Day of the Dead parade that they do. I guess I've heard about that yeah, oaxaca is another one that does celebrate on a large scale and that's where I've wanted to go and just kind of see this um. So yeah, there's different cities. It's, they're really beautiful the way they set up and stuff is nice yeah, I, um, I.
Speaker 3:I think next year we are looking to try and do Halloween somewhere else. I think we should start making it a tradition to do that. Yeah. So that we can experience it, especially in, like, the Latin and Hispanic cultures and areas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's not as much of a scary thing. It's more of like a celebration kind of.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm. Yeah, that'd be cool, cause it's not as much of a scary thing it's more of like a celebration kind of yeah.
Speaker 3:That'd be cool, okay, well, I think this is fantastic. We've covered some good information. I think you're going to be a little bit excited about what we're doing next, because we are definitely closing it out with our spiritual segment, but something special happened. Let's see so we'll take a break and then we will come back and we will close it out with our spiritual segment.
Speaker 3:All right, Bye bye everyone, we'll be back. All right, and we are back, so we're moving into our spiritual segment. Um, I'm going to share my screen, um, mainly what we're going to be talking about. So these were the cards we pulled. Maybe we should start doing this more often so that way people can see kind of what we, what we're pulling.
Speaker 1:Right and what we're talking about.
Speaker 3:And what we're talking about. Okay, so all right. So, from left to right, you see that we have the knight of wands, we have the knight of swords, upside down, and then we have the chariot uh. So, based off the information I found, so this is the powerful uh spread. All three cards represent movement, action and drive, but with nuanced differences, right, so let's go into them. So the Knight of Wands is a theme for passion, adventure, boldness, enthusiasm and impulsiveness. So that would be the Knight of Wands over here with the young lady on the pink or reddish horse.
Speaker 3:The Knight of Wands embodies fiery energy, someone eager to take action, follow their desires and embark on exciting journeys. This card suggests that you or someone around you are motivated by inspiration and willing to leap forward, but the energy may also be impatient or reckless. It can indicate rapid changes or a need to seize an opportunity before it slips away. Advice, harness, enthusiasm, but stay aware of the potential for rushing into things too quickly without considering consequences. Rushing into things too quickly without considering consequences. That's important. The Knight of Swords reversed, so that's our middle one. The themes for this one is haste, recklessness, scattered energy and frustration. In its reverse position, the Knight of Swords signals misdirected energy or a lack of clarity. It could indicate overthinking or rushing without direction, leading to mistakes or burnout. There may also be a sense of frustration because things are not progressing as quickly as desired and in some cases it can point to someone being too aggressive in their pursuit of goals, pushing too hard or recklessly. The advice for this card is to take a step back, gather your thoughts and slow down. This card warns against acting without a plan or trying to force things into place. Warns against acting without a plan or trying to force things into place.
Speaker 3:The chariot the theme is determination, control, success, willpower and focus. The meaning the chariot represents movement, victory and control through sheer determination. It suggests that you have or need the focus of discipline to overcome obstacles and achieve your goals. The chariot also implies that inner conflict must be managed, balancing the opposing focus within you to steer towards success. The advice here is to stay focused, maintain control of your emotions and impulses and move forward with a clear plan. The spread overall highlights movement and action, but suggests a need for balance between impulsiveness and control.
Speaker 3:The Knight of Wands reflects excitement and the urge to dive head first into something. The Reverse Knight of Swords warn dive headfirst into something. The reverse knight of swords warns against rushing into something without proper thought or strategy, signaling that the scattered or recklessness energy could derail progress. The chariot emphasizes the importance of controlling these conflicting energies enthusiasm and enthusiasm, and the Knight of Wands, which is versus. What we're talking about, for the Chariot, shows frustration and haste, which is the reverse Knight of Swords. Together, the cards suggest that, while you are filled with passion and ideas, you may need to slow down and focus your energy to stay on the right path. Discipline, willpower and intentional movement which speaks to the chariot are crucial to achieving your goals. The key takeaways you should be taking away from this is this reading advised you to channel your enthusiasm and ambition which is our knight of wands while avoiding reckless decisions which reverse which speaks to the reverse knight of swords with focus and control, which speaks to the chariot, and you can successfully navigate challenges and reach your destination. And that that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Is intense.
Speaker 1:It's crazy how like they all three kind of like go together, like they all not match, but like they all have like a similar theme.
Speaker 3:Yes, 100%. But I have to tell you, this is wild, because I have been, obviously, things have been crazy but also just been struggling with been crazy but also just been struggling with getting comfortable in new situations and have just, you know, been like. You know, what do I do? Do I make a decision, you know? And then I think I also sat on here and talked about, you know, buying a bike, because I've been wanting one and all that, but it's, it's taken me up until this time to, um, make a final decision that I am going to do it.
Speaker 3:Say all that, to say that, um, it's interesting how things connect to you and how you, how cards and tarot can it picks up on your energy. Because, when I tell you, I was sitting here, you know, I was playing with the cards, right, and they fell on the floor and then I picked them up and I actually had saw the knight of swords, I saw the horse was like, oh, that's a dope card, and then I kept shuffling, shuffled again, pulled what I thought was one end up being three cards. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it's just crazy interesting to think how things align things align in. The universe speaks to you. How does these resonate for you?
Speaker 1:I think sometimes like I want to do so many things and I was just thinking about this earlier Like I want to do so many things at one time. Sometimes, you know, like I want to be better on the on you know our platform. I want to be a better mom, I want to be, you know, on the gym consistently. You know the way I have been and but like actually see results and like just all these things, but I like, so I just go in and like do shit, you know, and I think it's like saying that like OK, how to like stop and like think about what you're doing and like go in disciplined, and like I can only be in one place at one time, you know.
Speaker 1:So, like when I'm in the gym, then I can give my all to the gym. When I'm here, give my all here, and then when I work, give my work, like like you know, as a mom, right, but I think I just have to like take one thing at a time, because lately I've been overthinking like crazy, and I think when you're like, like when you start doing that, like it just overwhelms you and you don't sleep right or whatever, know so you're not disciplined, like it says, and you're not like fully, um, into what you're yeah, um, I also think this time of year is the usually when we it's like seasonal depression, um, and not to say that you, we're depressed or I'm depressed or you're depressed, you know, but I'm just saying like, this is usually when people start to get in their heads the most.
Speaker 3:It's the most transitional time of the year, because things get really dark for some people. You know, you don't get as much vitamin D. Most people are confined to their homes for the most part of this time of the year.
Speaker 1:It's crazy that you say that because I was listening to a sermon earlier today Because I was like I need to pick me up, because I was feeling like I was feeling like a little bit like like I kind of isolate I do isolate a lot and I was like feeling that. And then I heard the sermon and it talks about that and how it can lead to despair and all these other things, you know, if you try to seek it in like something physical or like someone else or whatever. And then now you're mentioning it. So that's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I. It's as humans. We are always going to transition, we always have things that we need to do. We always get into autopilot. You know, it's generation, some of it's generational, some of it's not. But you know what? What are we? We always have to ask ourselves okay, so what's next? Right?
Speaker 3:I had an interesting conversation with my with Paris actually where he mentioned, like you know, I feel like you're always doing something and I am very content with what I have going on, and and I was like you know, I don't know what that means, cause I'm, I'm, I'm in the pursuit of still chasing after my career, still, you know, getting a degree, still trying to build something that I don't necessarily have to go and report to someone every day.
Speaker 3:So, you know, I don't necessarily look at being not being in a pursuit for something as a bad thing, that being not being in a pursuit for something as a bad thing. But then, you know, I read this and I'm like, okay, so I still I need to make sure to have some sort of always have to do things with intention. I try to make sure to do that and always making sure that I'm not rushing to make decisions and making sure that everything that I'm doing, I'm passionate about and have some sort of feeling about the work that I'm doing, which I try to make sure I don't put any energy into something that I'm not fully interested in or, you know, want to do. Right so um that was interesting.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, I mean, if we can, if I can, if we could do it more often than I will, uh, if it happens, but I also like the fact that it naturally happens. I also feel like I need to cleanse my cards the cards soon. I need some new crystals around here, but now I'm rambling anyway. Well, I hope you all enjoyed this week's episode. Happy Halloween. Everyone be safe out there. If you're listening, to this.
Speaker 1:yes, check there If you're listening to this?
Speaker 3:yes, check the candy. If this is the day of Halloween or the week before, it doesn't matter. Happy Halloween. After this, we are moving back into our regular scheduled Degla Degla program until we go into the next season of things. Make sure you like, comment and subscribe and you are following us on our social media, do you have? Anything you want to add.
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